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Schaferhund

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Convention of States folks testified before the State Legislature of The Great State of Wyoming yesterday. Wyoming will vote on joining next week.
If you live in Wyoming or have folks there now is time to call or email to strongly urge legislators to do right thing
 

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Convention of States folks testified before the State Legislature of The Great State of Wyoming yesterday. Wyoming will vote on joining next week.
If you live in Wyoming or have folks there now is time to call or email to strongly urge legislators to do right thing
CoS. SOME SAY THERE CD BE A RUNAWAY CONVENTION. THAT IS POSSIBLE. WT CD BE WORSE THAN THE SITUATION WE ARE IN NOW IN WHICH HARDLY ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS DIDN'T CHEAT TO GET IN OR WAS SUPPORTED BY CORPORATIONS AND BIG TECH — OR BOTH.

TWO THINGS CONVENTION NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH.

1. TERM LIMITS. FOR ALL OFFICIALS INCLUDING APPOINTEES AND GOVT BUREAUCRATS. NO ONE SHD BE A CAREER POLITICIAN. PAY THEM WELL BUT NO PENSIONS. THAT THEY GET OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

2. COURT OF THE STATES. JUDGES TO BE APPOINTED BY EACH STATE TO MEET EVERY TWO YEARS AND REVIEW ALL SUPREME COURT DECISIONS AND OVERTURN THOSE WHICH ARE WRONG. WITH A CORRUPT SUPREME COURT OF MOSTLY EASTERN PRIVILEDGE ORIGIN THIS CD BE THE LAST GREAT HOPE FOR AMERICA. TWO JUDGES APPOINTED FROM EACH STATE WD GIVE JUSTICE A STABILITY IT CANNOT HAVE FROM AD HOC APPOINTMENTS RATIFIED THOUGH PURE POLITICS AND CHANCE.

ALSO ANY CITIZEN CD APPEAL DIRECTLY FROM THEIR STATE SUPREME COURT IF US. SUPREME COURT REFUSES TO HEAR THE CASE. THE DECISION OF THE COURT OF STATES ALWAYS TRUMPS OUR CURRENT SUPREME COURT.

I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THESE TWO THINGS FOR A LONG TIME. ANY MORE IDEAS?

Jazon
 

Schaferhund

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CoS. SOME SAY THERE CD BE A RUNAWAY CONVENTION. THAT IS POSSIBLE. WT CD BE WORSE THAN THE SITUATION WE ARE IN NOW IN WHICH HARDLY ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS DIDN'T CHEAT TO GET IN OR WAS SUPPORTED BY CORPORATIONS AND BIG TECH — OR BOTH.

TWO THINGS CONVENTION NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH.

1. TERM LIMITS. FOR ALL OFFICIALS INCLUDING APPOINTEES AND GOVT BUREAUCRATS. NO ONE SHD BE A CAREER POLITICIAN. PAY THEM WELL BUT NO PENSIONS. THAT THEY GET OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

2. COURT OF THE STATES. JUDGES TO BE APPOINTED BY EACH STATE TO MEET EVERY TWO YEARS AND REVIEW ALL SUPREME COURT DECISIONS AND OVERTURN THOSE WHICH ARE WRONG. WITH A CORRUPT SUPREME COURT OF MOSTLY EASTERN PRIVILEDGE ORIGIN THIS CD BE THE LAST GREAT HOPE FOR AMERICA. TWO JUDGES APPOINTED FROM EACH STATE WD GIVE JUSTICE A STABILITY IT CANNOT HAVE FROM AD HOC APPOINTMENTS RATIFIED THOUGH PURE POLITICS AND CHANCE.

ALSO ANY CITIZEN CD APPEAL DIRECTLY FROM THEIR STATE SUPREME COURT IF US. SUPREME COURT REFUSES TO HEAR THE CASE. THE DECISION OF THE COURT OF STATES ALWAYS TRUMPS OUR CURRENT SUPREME COURT.

I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THESE TWO THINGS FOR A LONG TIME. ANY MORE IDEAS?

Jazon
The Cos website explains the question that many have asked about a runaway convention and the safeguards against that.
Thanks for your post
 
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Schaferhund

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CoS. SOME SAY THERE CD BE A RUNAWAY CONVENTION. THAT IS POSSIBLE. WT CD BE WORSE THAN THE SITUATION WE ARE IN NOW IN WHICH HARDLY ANY MEMBER OF CONGRESS DIDN'T CHEAT TO GET IN OR WAS SUPPORTED BY CORPORATIONS AND BIG TECH — OR BOTH.

TWO THINGS CONVENTION NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH.

1. TERM LIMITS. FOR ALL OFFICIALS INCLUDING APPOINTEES AND GOVT BUREAUCRATS. NO ONE SHD BE A CAREER POLITICIAN. PAY THEM WELL BUT NO PENSIONS. THAT THEY GET OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

2. COURT OF THE STATES. JUDGES TO BE APPOINTED BY EACH STATE TO MEET EVERY TWO YEARS AND REVIEW ALL SUPREME COURT DECISIONS AND OVERTURN THOSE WHICH ARE WRONG. WITH A CORRUPT SUPREME COURT OF MOSTLY EASTERN PRIVILEDGE ORIGIN THIS CD BE THE LAST GREAT HOPE FOR AMERICA. TWO JUDGES APPOINTED FROM EACH STATE WD GIVE JUSTICE A STABILITY IT CANNOT HAVE FROM AD HOC APPOINTMENTS RATIFIED THOUGH PURE POLITICS AND CHANCE.

ALSO ANY CITIZEN CD APPEAL DIRECTLY FROM THEIR STATE SUPREME COURT IF US. SUPREME COURT REFUSES TO HEAR THE CASE. THE DECISION OF THE COURT OF STATES ALWAYS TRUMPS OUR CURRENT SUPREME COURT.

I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THESE TWO THINGS FOR A LONG TIME. ANY MORE IDEAS?

Jazon
Some folks have suggested that some amendments like 2nd Amendment could be rewritten in today's language that would make it harder for leftist politicians or courts to distort it to serve their needs.

The term limit proposal could immediately get rid of some of the scum in D.C. for sure.
 

Jazon Panther. Ph.D.

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Some folks have suggested that some amendments like 2nd Amendment could be rewritten in today's language that would make it harder for leftist politicians or courts to distort it to serve their needs.

The term limit proposal could immediately get rid of some of the scum in D.C. for sure.
SWITZERLAND REQUIRES EVERY CITIZEN TO OWN AT LEAST ONE GUN TO DEFEND THEIR COUNTRY. EVERY ABLEBODIED PERSON 17 AND ABOVE SHD BE REQUIRED TO OWN AND BE PROFICIENT MARKMEN (AND WOMEN) UNLESS EXEMPT BY BODILY DEFECT OR RELIGIOUS CONVICTION. GUNOWNERSHIP AND USE WD THEN BE A RIGHT AND A DUTY.
 

Jazon Panther. Ph.D.

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TRUMP WON THE COUNTRY IN A LANDSLIDE.

The fact that he won the election in a landslide victory means that Donald J. Trump is in fact the President of the country no matter what Congress or anyone else says.

Symbolic actions are important. We need to avoid doing anything which give the people now seated in the Old Capitol of Washington any legitimacy. That is why I refer to it as the Old Capitol. The New Capitol is de facto where ever President Donald Trump is. At present that is Mar-a-Lago. It will be in fact where ever Trump and his entourage travel.

We need to support Pres. Trump in all of our actions, continue to refer to him as the President and the other guy as a laughable imposter. The country is waiting for the President to take action to resume his legitimate status and powers.

As Commander in Chief we need him to take control of the military and protect our country and others such as Formosa (Taiwan) from danger. We need him to act to preserve the country from economic harm inflicted by traitors and imposters. We request he will take action to undo the harm inflicted by violent protesters and anarchists. We need to pray that he will accept the leadership that the vast majority of the country has entrusted to him, and pray that God will give him the ability to lead us out of this current deadly situation.

If the President does not accept this responsibility he breaks faith with the American people, with those who voted for him legitimately, and especially with the Million Guardians of the Republic who accepted his invitation and weathered the Storm at the Old Capitol. If he does not then he has put us in jeopardy unnecessarily, and has allowed the state action and arrests used totry to intimidate us to bring fear into the hearts of the rest of the nation. This fear of revenge to be taken by the traitors who plotted this is a major cause of loss of confidence among patriots.

The President can become the leader we need if he will come out and claim the position the American people have offered him overwhelmingly. He can dissolve the perplexity that surrounds us by sounding the clarion call. He can lead us to a bloodless victory by asserting his claim to the highest office in the land now improperly occupied by an imposter. This is the time to strike before the liberal traitors get a choke-hold on all of the offices and powers in the land.

We will never give up. We will not back down. We will give every ounce of blood and treasure rather than be slaves of the blood-money cesspool that the Old Capitol has become. It has no legitimacy and no connection to the will of the people. The minions of high corporate dominion do not represent their districts nor the people as a whole, but themselves, their liberal ideology and status quoism, and their corporate masters.

Let us wipe the slate clean, choose a New Capitol and with legitimate leadership let us rebuild a new government of the people, and by the people, so help us God.
 

Schaferhund

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TRUMP WON THE COUNTRY IN A LANDSLIDE.

The fact that he won the election in a landslide victory means that Donald J. Trump is in fact the President of the country no matter what Congress or anyone else says.

Symbolic actions are important. We need to avoid doing anything which give the people now seated in the Old Capitol of Washington any legitimacy. That is why I refer to it as the Old Capitol. The New Capitol is de facto where ever President Donald Trump is. At present that is Mar-a-Lago. It will be in fact where ever Trump and his entourage travel.

We need to support Pres. Trump in all of our actions, continue to refer to him as the President and the other guy as a laughable imposter. The country is waiting for the President to take action to resume his legitimate status and powers.

As Commander in Chief we need him to take control of the military and protect our country and others such as Formosa (Taiwan) from danger. We need him to act to preserve the country from economic harm inflicted by traitors and imposters. We request he will take action to undo the harm inflicted by violent protesters and anarchists. We need to pray that he will accept the leadership that the vast majority of the country has entrusted to him, and pray that God will give him the ability to lead us out of this current deadly situation.

If the President does not accept this responsibility he breaks faith with the American people, with those who voted for him legitimately, and especially with the Million Guardians of the Republic who accepted his invitation and weathered the Storm at the Old Capitol. If he does not then he has put us in jeopardy unnecessarily, and has allowed the state action and arrests used totry to intimidate us to bring fear into the hearts of the rest of the nation. This fear of revenge to be taken by the traitors who plotted this is a major cause of loss of confidence among patriots.

The President can become the leader we need if he will come out and claim the position the American people have offered him overwhelmingly. He can dissolve the perplexity that surrounds us by sounding the clarion call. He can lead us to a bloodless victory by asserting his claim to the highest office in the land now improperly occupied by an imposter. This is the time to strike before the liberal traitors get a choke-hold on all of the offices and powers in the land.

We will never give up. We will not back down. We will give every ounce of blood and treasure rather than be slaves of the blood-money cesspool that the Old Capitol has become. It has no legitimacy and no connection to the will of the people. The minions of high corporate dominion do not represent their districts nor the people as a whole, but themselves, their liberal ideology and status quoism, and their corporate masters.

Let us wipe the slate clean, choose a New Capitol and with legitimate leadership let us rebuild a new government of the people, and by the people, so help us God.
I Hope and Pray that the military understands the importance of their role in this, otherwise ...........
At the same time our enemies overseas will be watching .
 

Jazon Panther. Ph.D.

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CERTIFICATION OF FRAUD DOES NOT MAKE THE FRAUD LEGAL. IT SUBJECTS THE CERTIFIER TO PUNISHMENT.

Certification of fraud carries punishment sometimes greater than perpetuating the fraud itself, for it strikes at the very heart of the integrity of the justice system. I was once a notary; certification of fraud had consequences I was careful to avoid, so I always checked signatures by watching the signing, and checking the signature against official identification.

I was once a magistrate, an elected official known as Justice of the Peace, a mainstay of the Republic, and the primary reason, as Adam Smith pointed out in his Wealth of Nations. 1776. that the government of England was conducted so inexpensively — for my pay was exactly zero. Though the rewards were nonexistent, the penalties for certifying fraud were fine or imprisonment, or possibly both. So why isn't Congress in prison? 500 officials certifying a fraud does not change the fact of fraud. It means that the rascals who certified it need to be brought swiftly to justice. It means it is time for the people and its guardians to act to save the country from its internal enemies, those falsly sworn to protect it.

Let us pray and act that this may be speedily accomplished. May God give us the grace and guts to carry out this mission.
 

Jazon Panther. Ph.D.

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Some folks have suggested that some amendments like 2nd Amendment could be rewritten in today's language that would make it harder for leftist politicians or courts to distort it to serve their needs.

The term limit proposal could immediately get rid of some of the scum in D.C. for sure.
YOU WD HAVE TO WRITE REALLY SLOW — SOME OF THESE PEOPLE READ REALLY SLOW AND DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONTENT.
 
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Schaferhund

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Conventionofstates.com has seen significant progress possibly due to recent events.
Go on website to be part of saving our country by signing petition and participating. Check out map showing progress of states.
2022 is a long way off, help do something now.
 

Schaferhund

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Montana State Senate is set for a full vote today Thursday 2/11/2021 on the Convention of States Resolution . (Article V of constitution)

Alert your Friends, Relatives, Neighbors, Dog Owners, Cat Owners etc. to call/email State Legislators to voice support.

Patriots the Convention of States initiative is the tracks we can build to ROLL A TRAIN OVER CONGRESS.

Popular first move is instituting for ALL Congress, TERM LIMITS !!

Article V was not put in Constitution for window dressing !!! It is real, it has been used before in our past history.
Conventionofstates.com for info, updates and sign petition.

Pen Mightier than Sword?
Let's find out together !!
 
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Schaferhund

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The COS resolution was passed yesterday by a Subcommittee in the Iowa House State Government Committee.
One step closer for Iowa.
What's going on in your State's house ?
Find out at Conventionofstates.com sign petition get involved.
Article V of Constitution is worthless if we don't use it
 
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NvEric

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The Cos website explains the question that many have asked about a runaway convention and the safeguards against that.
Thanks for your post
Runaway Convention is a mostly a myth, because the States still need to Ratify it. Art. V is for amendments, but whole sale amendments covering much could occur, but again 3/4 of States need to Ratify them.

By the way, Congress should already have called a convention as 34 have already requested such.

As to an open convention, it is OK since Congress already has the ability to propose anything they want.
A convention Must be able to exercise the same ability, Right? Of course it can.
Single issue conventions may be called more readily, but what would it do other than discuss the fine print, however, since it's Hard Enough to get Congress to their job in 'calling' a convention, why impose any limits. Which is why 34 states can call their own convention and bypass Congress, otherwise Congress usurps the States from their right to an Art. V convention. States have the Right to a convention, and Congress can not block one by simply refusing a clerical detail. Congressional blockage would be un-Constitutional over their failure to say 'hey states go ahead'. They do not possess that Power. SCOTUS will render towards the States favor - they must since Congress has not done anything to the contrary of the States right for an Art. V exercise. Art V has not been altered as other parts of the Constitution have. It can't be unless by Amendment.
 

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According to COS website 15 States have presently voted to participate not 34 .
15 or more States are considering joining.
Amendments passed by COS can also limit SCOTUS i.e. term limits etc.
 

NvEric

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According to COS website 15 States have presently voted to participate not 34 .
15 or more States are considering joining.
Amendments passed by COS can also limit SCOTUS i.e. term limits etc.
However, as of May, 2017 Congress has reached a count of 39 applying states for an Article V Convention call.
The 39 states comprising the committee list are here: http://www.foavc.org/Pages/39_Apps.pdf

Friends of the Article V Convention - foavc.org - is worth viewing
http://clerk.house.gov/legislative/memorials.aspx is a list of applications made

These remind us we don't have proper representation
https://thirty-thousand.org
 

Schaferhund

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However, as of May, 2017 Congress has reached a count of 39 applying states for an Article V Convention call.
The 39 states comprising the committee list are here: http://www.foavc.org/Pages/39_Apps.pdf

Friends of the Article V Convention - foavc.org - is worth viewing
http://clerk.house.gov/legislative/memorials.aspx is a list of applications made

These remind us we don't have proper representation
https://thirty-thousand.org
thanks for info
I noticed some of the application dates go back to the 70's, 80's etc. do the states need to come at congress at same time, (34 at once) , looks like apps are decades apart.
 
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thanks for info
I noticed some of the application dates go back to the 70's, 80's etc. do the states need to come at congress at same time, (34 at once) , looks like apps are decades apart.
good question I look forward to the answer to your question.
 

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thanks for info
I noticed some of the application dates go back to the 70's, 80's etc. do the states need to come at congress at same time, (34 at once) , looks like apps are decades apart.
There is no expiration date on the State resolutions unless they put one in themselves.

But the Congress has, and will continue to ignore the call- so much time has passed for some States that the political control has shifted and the same resolutions would not pass again today.

IIRC most of them were calls for balanced budget amendments of various flavors.

The Congress would try to pre-empt an Article V Cconvention by proposing their own amendments. They do not want the States running wild - the one thing that scares them more than anything else because they lose all control of the process.
 

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