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I wrote this last night, not knowing what Steve was going to talk about…which makes it even more salient.



In a court of law, one must present evidence, so here’s my opening statement.



Kha-rag-ma in greek new testament Charagma



Could this original greek word be a clue?



“he shall make all great and small to receive a mark, in their hand or gorehead, without which they cannot buy or sell” rev 14:9…typo on purpose.

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,



Now worship can mean admire and obey, worship has many avenues of attitudes that oppose the one true God and His teachings.



What could this mean



Strong’s concordance says”

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance

mark, brand (stigma in latin) stigmata



From a primary stizo (to "stick", i.e. Prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), i.e. (figuratively) scar of service -- mark.



Thayer’s adds

Strong's Concordance

stigma: a mark or brand

Original Word: στίγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: stigma
Phonetic Spelling: (stig'-mah)
Definition: a bed of leaves or rushes
Usage: a mark or brand.



So it’s a bed you sleep in, you believed you made your bed, the NEUTERED noun?

4742 stígma – properly, a brand mark burned into the skin; (figuratively) "holy scars" that go with serving Jesus as Lord (used only in Gal 6:17). But in Rev this becomes an unholy mark, given by a series of lies, which people believe because of the so called “miracles” that this man of sin performs, and what ST. Paul also referred to as the BIG LIE. The one he said people would believe “BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH”.

4742 /stígma ("brand-mark") refers to the literal scars on Paul from the lictor's rods at Pisidian Antioch, the stoning at Lystra, etc. These "marked Paul off" as the slave of Jesus (bearing "holy scars for Christ").

[Brand-marks (4742 /stígma), like "tatoos" (Gk stigmata), were burned into the skin of slaves in NT times – proving they belonged to a particular owner.]

Thayer's Greek Lexicon

STRONGS NT 4742: στίγμα

στίγμα, στιγματος, τό (from στίζω to prick; (cf. Latinstimulus, etc.; German stechen, English stick, sting, etc.; Curtius, § 226)), a mark pricked in or branded upon the body. According to ancient oriental usage, slaves and soldiers bore the name or stamp of their master or commander branded or pricked (cut) into their bodies to indicate what master or general they belonged to, and there were even some devotees who stamped themselves in this way with the token of their gods (cf. Deyling, Observations, iii., p. 423ff); hence, τά στίγματα τοῦ (κυρίου so Rec.) Ἰησοῦ, the marks of (the Lord) Jesus, which Paul in Galatians 6:17 says he bears branded on his body, are the traces left there by the perils, hardships, imprisonments, scourgings, endured by him for the cause of Christ, and which mark him as Christ's faithful and approved votary, servant, soldier (see Lightfoots Commentary on Galatians, the passage cited). (Herodotus 7, 233; Aristotle, Aelian, Plutarch, Lcian, others.)



Please focus on the definition to prick or stick, coupled with the idea of a scratching that one admires or agrees with, a token of their god



The DOT the DOT the DOT, read up on the DOT, just for starters.

If brave go to the patent office and look up all the patents of Microsoft, moderna and other Gates subsidiaries…it’s a scary movie, trust me.



Is a luciferse DOT (paart of the vaccine plan) a marking ot tatoo of sorts? YES

Is an etching put on the silicon chip inserted that can control health info and banking? YES

Does such a chip exit? YES. cHECK OUT dIGITAL aNGEL” AND THE SWIFT BANKING SYSTEM…both exist now, both use chip technology to “help” us. Miraculous?



If you were not allowed to fly, and another worse pandemic “happened”, (maybe as a result of what the first one did to people, (created by resistant strains brought on by the very vaccine meant to “save them all”), or rule them all as Tolkien might say,

What would be the result? Worse bugs, more restraints?



You not only could not fly, you could not shop for food, no admittance anywhere without having the vax, as evidence by the MARK, the peircing, the pricking, the stick, the mark of your owner.

Just as they scan your temperature now, on your forehead, they could scan you for the luminesance.



Since the mark proved whom your owner was, (only slaves wore such a mark in old days). Today, you are being told you are not a slave, yet half your salary goes to a corrupt group of ruler elites at minimum, even when you do not think or know so, it is happening. Every pair of jeans, every morsel of food is taxed before it even reaches you, the grower, the weavers, the trucker, the grocer etc., all pay taxes on their gas and goods to get it to you, so the cost is doubled when you buy it, and then you pay sales tax on top of that, and income and property tax etc etc. so all pay, don’t let their sinister lying system convince you you pay very little, because without their system you would keep the larger salary and goods would cost far less.



So you are slaves, and about to all be marked, with an etching, without which you won’t be able to take your wife to dinner much less move freely in society.



And what else can we attribute to the man promoting the DOT and other new technologies, HIS name= Will I am Gates……by his will you shall enter the gates, or not. Will I AM says so.



1; Let’s see…..he patents his health related things with assigned numbers always containing three sixes in some fashion. Always sixes, why is that? Is he picking the numbers or is someone at patent office making sure he gets those assigned numbers? Maybe to alert US, or maybe just to be in our faces?

2. His wife wears an inverted cross, only avowed Satanists wear these crosses to announce to others “in the know” their allegiance is to lucifer, not to God. (today show, and noy photo shopped)

3. He named his DOT substance “Luciferase”, knowing this would upset Christians the globalist literature speaks of Christians being the main deterant to their agenda.

4. He gave the most dangerous form of polio vaccine to millions, crippling thousands , even when a much safer form of polio vax was available.

5. He boasted he would make billions off this crisis, while he could have easily paid 4 cents per pill on ivermectin.

6. Instead he lectured us on how the populace must be reduced while simultaneously buying up homes and lands while the crisis, that he and his little Hitler Faux-Xi helped create.

7. HE funded WHO as much as our government, and HE knew what stocks to buy, and how to force folks out of their homes.

8.His banker father did the same thing in the last depression and other stock market crisises , they scooped up the life savings of their neighbors, all the while supporting and putting up more and more abortion clinics in poor and colored neighborhoods.

Sitting on the board of planned parenthood from its inception.

9. he boasted he would send mosquitos to vax everyone, whether they liked it or not.

10. he agrees with Al Gore’s book, and the Georgia guidestones, which both call for massive depopulation of the planet, but since most conservatives never read the book, or what is on the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES, they really do not believe this is how these people think, IN SPITE of the fact that they keep telescoping it RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES.

I could go on, but you start to get the point?



So now that they have the technology ready to be accepted, and have paid, along with Soros and others to steal the election, and place a senile puppet at the head of things, they think they can now complete their plan.

All the while Bill Gates is pretending to be a hero and care….

All the while Obama pretended to care, and gave our health care to some of the worst greed driven groups on the planet. The hospitals and insurance companies, owned by the same suspects, Make no mistake, after they give you 100 new formerly rare but now at epidemic level autoimmune diseases, they will make sure you have to pay them the rest of your substance just trying to survive such illnesses for a little while longer. Meanwhile they’ll call it health “care”.



Oh and the jews all say his William henry gates in gematria is adding up to 666.



But lets ignor all that. Let’s pretend they only mean us well.

When St paul said “they shall call eveil good, and call good evil, he wasn’t talking about these convoluted sons of beaches.



Let’s ignor all the signs that have been there for years.

Signs are for stupid people, right!!! Wrong, wrong wrong…signs are breadcrumbs that God keeps dropping hoping you will NOT check your brains at the door, and prove to them and God that you really are deplorable!!

Remember, ignorance means to push away truth with the hand, in hebrew…its us saying “talk to the hand” even when the only ones hurt by that, are OURSELVES.

William gates

he and his CEO Microsoft pals are buying up all the homes of the distressed unemployed waiters and waitresses and chef, lets ignor that he and his china loving buddies Buffet, Zuckerberg and others don’t care that they have impoverished half their neighbors meanwhile buying the elction by hiring cheaters and blackmailing politicians into submission.



Ignor How he bought out all his competitors, how he can track every word, every site you visit, and now find and track anyone in moments with facial recognition.

Lets forget that every one in military is being GPS and vaxxed and chipped/marked in ways they never would have dreamed, lets forget through 23 and me, ancestry and all the rest they are compiling who has what DNA, the better to harvest YOU for one of their own, and no, we aren’t becoming like China, of course not.



No one would every develop a drug that could drop you but preserve your organs long enough to use them on another. Wait, they did that.



No one would want a way to turn off your car while you are driving, or would they. No one would want to monitor you while you work at home, to see if you are gaming jerking off or sleeping, when you should be working for HIM. Oh wait…wait….you are running from them, they will stop you!



No one would ever invite you to a ranch only to take your life so they could replace you with one of their own (Scalia). Of course not, and

no united states president would ever send hundreds of billions of our dollars to a dictator who has been vpwing “death to America” for 40 years….unless his presidency was paid for, and he was installed by…that’s right, the folks who aren’t waiting any longer.



Enter the greatest liar since Caligula. (Front man for the antichrist?)

3 frohs, Gates, Obama, Fransis, the false prophet, the man of sin, and the vicarious (anti) Christ.



Oh wait, all these things have just been happening.



Maybe

Just maybe



if it looks like a duck



And walks like a duck



It’s a duck ?





I think I know whom the 3 frogs are.

One man is given power with the beast….for one hour. To understand one hour you need to know in Hebrew a day, week, were mistranslated, as was hour, I believe.



A day could be a year, a week could be 7 years, a day could also be a thousand years.

If a day were a year, then an hour would be 1/24th of that, or about 2 weeks.

But if a day were a thousand years, then the hour becomes 1000 divided by 24 or almost 42 years.

But a year in Hebrew got translated wrong also, so 42 years could mean 53 months…check out all the times 3 and ½ years (42 months) are mentioned.



This could mean that the woman who rided the beast (to protestants who read revelations this can only be the catholic church of Rev 18, only she isdrinking from fancy chalices clothed in red and purple (cardinal colors) and sitting on 7 hills (Rome). Only she killed more Christians than any other so is “drunk on the blood of the martrys”. Only she stood by while millions were drug off to ovens….



This polluted religious system, (many catholic agree because of Francis now proclaiming communism, abortion thru birth control etc etc are ok),

Is the woman that rides the beast. The BEAST, incidentally, is the nickname of the banking system in Brussels that runs the world banking known as SWIFT. SWIFT is owned jointly by catholic.muslim, and jewish bankers thru bank of America, Citibank, goldman sachs and other, the fed, the usual suspects.



Now combine that fact that Obama and the pope announced that “one man should control all the money (right after the mortgage crisis), with the banks now spying to see who donates to conservative causes, and the idea that they want one head honcho in control of every penny.



Combine that with the bible saying the man of sin will share power for one hour with the woman who rides (has chief control) of the beast. The church is called a woman, a she…as is America a she.

Vatican city, the angel when speaking to Daniel said, the woman that rides the beast is a CITY, again, “a she” is how Vatican city is referred.

Also who have phallis symbols in their places of honor? right in front of st. peters basilica, and the Washington monument. St peter wrote from rome, calling it Babylon. The same system is here, 7 of our supreme judges are catholic, and so forth, and they just refused to stand for truth, …put together with rev 18 calling the woman that rides the beast “the whore of babylon, babylon used the obelisk to honor their false Gods.

Put this with the Vatican bank being the largest on earth, and together with citibanlk, arab owed, and the other women, the monarchy and bank of England, and America with her greedy bankers..



Now we can see that the woman IS riding the beast, controlling the money system, and everyone even in poor countries now has a scanner pen (cost is 10 bucks, and they can participate in the cashless society.



They began preparing us for this years ago. The great reset will keep you from using your money as you please, in fact it will be phased out completely, star trek style.

Already in China there are several cities where cash is not accepted at all anywhere.

So the woman, who will tell you no guns, no travel without vaccine, and you need “reeducation” is here now, and has mounted her beast.

She will continue, now that she has prepped us, until all are ready for this reset. Then America will be disarmed, the last bastion of resistance and freedom, and those refusing the mark will be martyred just as their brethren were before them.

Meanwhile this gospel will be preached, the 3rd temple will be built, and when complete the man of sin, who had power with the woman riding the beast, likely to be Obama running united nations, or Xi, or maybe a corrupt pope, will march into the new jewish temple and declare that he is god.

The current pope is saying we are all god, as are some corrupted Christians.

Being part of the Lord, thru His grace, and haughtily announcing yourself to Be God, are 2 different things, one spirit is humble and knows its place, one is prideful and has no fear of God.



3 frogs, money system, mammon, 2/religious system/all false doctrine and false creeds. 3/, political systems that do not recognize God or their place in His governance or rule, who are bent on a world view devoid of faith in the Creator.



4 horseman….1 white horse rode in first….mohammed road a white horse, and deceived a third of the world with a religion, just as, prophecy said he would this began in 700 AD and continues to this day



2 red horse rome, the inquisition, stalin lenin mao hitler, a lot of blood was spilled. All aimed at killing chistians and jews…go figure . at least a billion killed by the sword when you add up not just the big genocides and wars but all the little one, one that continue even today to kill hundreds more each and every day somewhere in this world. Not to mention the aborted millions.

3 pale horse, the pale horse is symbolic of sickness. Sickness and death of our eart and oceans and peoples. All three have been sprayed, GMO”d vaccinated and medicated, oh yeah and radiated, until no country, no ocean, no land allowed to rest Shabbat, and so the health of the earth is failing, the ocean is dying, and the people are pale with sicknesses that man himself created with his science.

The whole idea is to find out, through forced vaccines, how to quickly react to bugs for a reason.

In case they don’t save the earth in time, which really is a lie anyway, the ones claiming they want to save it are the same ones doing next to nothing to stop their plastic fantastic manufacturing….they sream about melting glaciers, but continue to drive their polls poyces and dump hundreds more tons per day in the ocean they say they want to save.

What they are planning, is to get off planet, if the vaccines kill most of us, great they’ll save the planet, if the vaccine teaches them how to live on mars, because the great guinea pig event showed them what NOT to do…great, they will beome martians and survive. Sounds nuts but it is true. These are their plans.

4. black horse the death from all their pride shall come upon them. At a time they think not, He shall come, and gather His elect, and the rest shall weep, with nashing of teeth ask the caves to hide them, and the rocks to fall on them, and to hide them from the Living God. This means THEY WILL ALL KNOW, because the gospel will have been preached to them, they will know it is God’s judgment day, and think they can hide from Him underground!! Silly wsbbits, can’t hide from the Living God…sheesh.



But it will be too late then, for the mystery of ungodliness shall be upon them who refused.



I think its time the Christians who are catholic look at how Obama, the globalists, Pope Fransis, are all in agreement with this program. Most hospitals are catholic owned, the doctors who discovered African vaccines has a infertility hormone added to them,, were fired by the catholic hospitals they worked for.



I love Catholics and have a great debt to them, but its time they woke up, mystery Babylon is Rome, and their church which is the city/woman who rides the systems of Babylon.. Come out from among them and be ye separate.” That is what the bible says to do.
 

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Just want to add, the words "mark on the hand" or head appear elsewhere in the bible: Exodus13:9-13:16- describes ongoing adherence to certain rituals as a mark on the hand of the jews. Also deut 11:18, numbers 6:7.
Each of these reference an observable human behavior as a 'mark'; even our word "mark" describes both the verb-action and the noun-result, ie "mark on a wall", describes both the animated gesture of the hand and the resultant static markings.
I think its possible the mark of the beast is not a tatoo or visible graffiti on the human but a shared behavior humans manifest to show conformity with the beast. For all I know its something we're all doing already.
 
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yes, entirely feasible, since the little dove on the credit cards was a backhand towards the Holy Spirit.
thats what I thought at first also, but then in some ways it just didn't fit "the whole council of God.
the idea of "the number of his name" cames to mind....and I thought ah ha, the digital numeric system, bar codes all that...

the whole council doctrine says it must fit with EVERY mention in scripture, not just with some and not others.

several logical progressions bear this out.

so due to this I do think the actual mark, scratch, or emblem was to be in the flesh, as it was with all slaves, and is what the Jews were forbidden to take, explicately, any tatoo, any mark in their flesh was forbidden to them by Mosaic law.

also Rev says one must take this mark "in the hand or in the forehead" indicating it is in one's flesh or body, not held in the hand, but on ones person, implanted or made permanent somehow, which for believers indicates a definitive acquiescence to the same.

and hence, if one takes it one can buy or sell, but if not taking it one cannot buy or sell...however if one does take it, then the wrath and judgment of God will abide upon that person.

ok, now go back to when Jesus said to him that knows to do and does not, to him this is sin. well the reverse is also that to him who knows not to do and does the thing anyway, to him this is sin. so to have the wrath abide permanently, means you must have known what you were doing when you did it....otherwise God would be unjust in allowing that to condemn you.

where that leaves us, is the christian community should know NOT to take this mark, and if they take it anyway, welll....

this is why folks are really trying to figure out who is lying and what are these people really up to...because those that love God need to know, in order not to be caught up in "the great lie" with which the whole world will be deceived (except believers who are not ignorant of his (satans) devices. pardon the double-entente, God put it there.

let no man deceive you...the end will not come until the man of sin is revealed. the man of sin is also the one forcing a mark on all great and small.
the man of sin will lie and make folks believe his lie. Otherwise no one would be deceived or go around deceiving others...so ferreting out truth from lies is quite an important effort. WE, the believers are suppose to work hard to figure this out, to make CERTAIN we are not among the deceived. even if that means we can no longer shop for food.

if they were not expecting that some folks, going hungry and the like, might not get desperate....remember, it isn't just the new monetary system, they will create food shortages for their own purposes but they know some folks will literally try to cut the hand off a person who has the mark, chip set. No telling what a guy with starving kids might do.

this is why they developed the ATMs to read blood flow, so they won't give cash to a hand without blood flow. this machine was developed 45 years ago, in anticipation of what famine and the new money system will have happen.

according to the AG Zsar of trumps there are no food shortages anywhere, there is surplus like crazy, the only shortages are for political motive, but there is pleanty of grain available to every nation...so maybe, cutting off elsalvador was to get them hungry enough to come here? Argentina, Venezuela? who has been trying to starve them out, and why...when grain abounds..why?
well it got cheap workers and dem voters here...

NOW here it comes watch this:


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Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
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Rev 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Rev 14:9
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
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Rev 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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Rev 15:2
And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
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Rev 16:2
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
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Rev 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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Rev 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

OK what to do with rev 16['2...back to full council:

how about the part about a grievous sore on their body if they received the mark...doesn't this prove the mark is in one's flesh?
how would you get a sore if it was just in your credit card or phone??

doesn't a grievous sore resemble an auto-immune reaction of some type???

so this is when I left off thinking we are doing it already; but rather we are being prepared with all these devices and cards for the final device which WILL BE in our flesh.

what do you think of my reasoning??
 

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yes, entirely feasible, since the little dove on the credit cards was a backhand towards the Holy Spirit.
thats what I thought at first also, but then in some ways it just didn't fit "the whole council of God.
the idea of "the number of his name" cames to mind....and I thought ah ha, the digital numeric system, bar codes all that...

the whole council doctrine says it must fit with EVERY mention in scripture, not just with some and not others.

several logical progressions bear this out.

so due to this I do think the actual mark, scratch, or emblem was to be in the flesh, as it was with all slaves, and is what the Jews were forbidden to take, explicately, any tatoo, any mark in their flesh was forbidden to them by Mosaic law.

also Rev says one must take this mark "in the hand or in the forehead" indicating it is in one's flesh or body, not held in the hand, but on ones person, implanted or made permanent somehow, which for believers indicates a definitive acquiescence to the same.

and hence, if one takes it one can buy or sell, but if not taking it one cannot buy or sell...however if one does take it, then the wrath and judgment of God will abide upon that person.

ok, now go back to when Jesus said to him that knows to do and does not, to him this is sin. well the reverse is also that to him who knows not to do and does the thing anyway, to him this is sin. so to have the wrath abide permanently, means you must have known what you were doing when you did it....otherwise God would be unjust in allowing that to condemn you.

where that leaves us, is the christian community should know NOT to take this mark, and if they take it anyway, welll....

this is why folks are really trying to figure out who is lying and what are these people really up to...because those that love God need to know, in order not to be caught up in "the great lie" with which the whole world will be deceived (except believers who are not ignorant of his (satans) devices. pardon the double-entente, God put it there.

let no man deceive you...the end will not come until the man of sin is revealed. the man of sin is also the one forcing a mark on all great and small.
the man of sin will lie and make folks believe his lie. Otherwise no one would be deceived or go around deceiving others...so ferreting out truth from lies is quite an important effort. WE, the believers are suppose to work hard to figure this out, to make CERTAIN we are not among the deceived. even if that means we can no longer shop for food.

if they were not expecting that some folks, going hungry and the like, might not get desperate....remember, it isn't just the new monetary system, they will create food shortages for their own purposes but they know some folks will literally try to cut the hand off a person who has the mark, chip set. No telling what a guy with starving kids might do.

this is why they developed the ATMs to read blood flow, so they won't give cash to a hand without blood flow. this machine was developed 45 years ago, in anticipation of what famine and the new money system will have happen.

according to the AG Zsar of trumps there are no food shortages anywhere, there is surplus like crazy, the only shortages are for political motive, but there is pleanty of grain available to every nation...so maybe, cutting off elsalvador was to get them hungry enough to come here? Argentina, Venezuela? who has been trying to starve them out, and why...when grain abounds..why?
well it got cheap workers and dem voters here...

NOW here it comes watch this:


copyChkboxOff.gif
Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
copyChkboxOff.gif
Rev 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
copyChkboxOff.gif
Rev 14:9
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
copyChkboxOff.gif
Rev 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
copyChkboxOff.gif
Rev 15:2
And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
copyChkboxOff.gif
Rev 16:2
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
copyChkboxOff.gif
Rev 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
copyChkboxOff.gif
Rev 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

OK what to do with rev 16['2...back to full council:

how about the part about a grievous sore on their body if they received the mark...doesn't this prove the mark is in one's flesh?
how would you get a sore if it was just in your credit card or phone??

doesn't a grievous sore resemble an auto-immune reaction of some type???

so this is when I left off thinking we are doing it already; but rather we are being prepared with all these devices and cards for the final device which WILL BE in our flesh.

what do you think of my reasoning??
I think its one of the mysteries in the bible (revelations is full of mysteries) & hence not necessarily what we think it will be or what we're looking out for.
If the bible defines its own terms and a 'mark' is usually shown in context to describe a behavior, but then in revelations 'mark on the hand' means something different- a physical mark- that meaning should also be grounded by usage & context someplace outside of revelations.
And how about 15:2, these people who got victory over the mark? It sounds like theyre different from the people who refused the mark altogether. Could it be they accepted the mark then later repented and scrubbed it off... or did they later repent and stop doing the bad behavior the beast demands that God terms a 'mark?'
 
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As an example, I think if we're all mandated to start acting like peoples gender is their choice, stop saying 'he or she' & act like no one can know a baby's gender until its old enough to choose its own gender (well all that is just stupid)& cowing down to gross men in drag following 8 yr old girls into bathrooms (what segregated bathrooms?)
If we're required to endure all these lies& say nothing for fear of persecution, that is a bizarre 24/7 postured ritualized behavior which I might consider a mark of the beast.
 
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rev 15 2

great question monkey, in greek nikao---pronounced nick-ah- oh

overcome is the word used, and the usages in strong s
  1. to conquer
    1. to carry off the victory, come off victorious
      1. of Christ, victorious over all His foes
      2. of Christians, that hold fast their faith even unto death against the power of their foes, and temptations and persecutions
      3. when one is arraigned or goes to law, to win the case, maintain one's cause

those are the usages, overcome is used 97% of the time

I am reading those that "received it not", indicating they had an opportunity to receive it, whatever "it" is, and choose not to in order to overcome, resist, or hold fast to their faith. Anything going in your hand or forehead needs to really be thought thru!!!

this does not sound like they did it and then undid it, although we know the mercy of the Lord is way beyond what we think so, possibly. but I would suspect that mercy might be more towards those that didn't know any better, as in did not ever hear the gospel message until after they did it. I would say those knowing the instruction would certainly not gamble just for a "savory stew" if you get my meaning.

we do know that the Lord would not mark seal and leave 144,000 here to preach unless he planned on saving a few more folks during the real storms, vials, plauges.
I'd just hope most would not gamble, as I think Gates is intent on some very disturbing stuff.

as to the gender thing, its just part of the LIE, by getting folks to accept perversion as a good thing, they have fulfilled Romans 1 to the T.

the beauty of how we are all created needs to celebrated, not amputated. Nothing one sews on or cuts off will solve their unhappiness. the cure for unhappiness, is to meet and fall in love with the Living God.

they who try to convince children they were made wrong, are liars and murderers...
they who do these things, OR whomever takes pleasure in those who do them, will both be judged.

only when a chemical/medicinal or hormonal poisoning which produces a hermaphrodite should a surgery be done on a person. This condition is extremely rare.
Most often children don't like being left out, or not allowed to play with all types of toys, and they can wish to be different if their parent or another child makes them feel that way....or even if their play group is mostly of the other gender; but simple encouragement, correct instruction and love can get them back on track.

personally, I did not allow my children to be taught by perverts. they always try to insert their beliefs into the curriculum, cleverly it is always there. If that sounds prejudice so be it. No one gets the right to indoctrinate my children into their LIES.

the thing is, to confuse children this way, is akin to rape and murder of their innocence, and to deprive them of becoming what God created them to be.

a rape of the soul is as bad as a rape of the body, perhaps worse.

Of these people Jesus spoke the loudest when he said.

"it would be better if you had never been borne, or had drowned yourself with a millstone in the sea, than to have harmed one of these little ones."

God help us, these folks do not appear to want to repent of this at all, but rather take pleasure in all of it.
By labeling others intolerant for speaking out against it, they are winning the round, but the fight is not over, and no you may not suggest my children mutilate their own genitals you terribly sick to the marrow lost souls you.

This must become the new abortion issue. We must fight it the way we have fought abortion, and then some. Otherwise the country will be lost.

remember this..... One woman's lie, Ms. roe v wade liar who was not raped as it turned out....one woman who went along with Sanger's eugenics agenda, and lied for pay and fame to our highest court, is responsible for codifying and legalizing a billion murder worldwide. She later confessed the lie, but a billion people are dead at her hand so, wouldn't want to be in those shoes.

if we allow this new lie of transgenderism to stand, the blood of our children will be upon us.

and the surgeons who go along with this? A pox on them, may they all have their genitals mutilated against their will.
for a child has no will, they are too young to know what they are doing. therefore this is on their parents, their doctors and this Godforsaken governance.
and if any young adult thinks this will help them, they need to hear from the thousands now who did it, and now regret it to the core. It does not solve the basic issues, it only postpones and twists ones ability to even see what the real issues are.

all the different ways the fallen ones try to convince ourselves to alter ourselves, whether they be transgender or transhuman, are all part of the same hideous satanic deception, deceiving and being deceived set of LIES we were warned would come in the very Last of Days.

we will not be implanting our brains or removing our organs to be a part of their sick little clubs. de-friend, confine and no=fly away, I will arrive right on time wherever God wants me and not lose 2 seconds sleep over what the cancelers think.
He whom the Son sets free ............is FREE INDEED !!!

Now ask me what I really think.
 

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Is an etching put on the silicon chip inserted that can control health info and banking? YES

Wafers, the round thin substrate, have many 'chips' on it where layers, various oxides and metal, are put on with a specific pattern, photo resist is added, then exposure to light though a 'mask', and then etched in an acid leaving behind what is wanted for that layer - and the process repeats for all layers. Some layers are baked, some implanted with ions, and there's more. It's an additive / then machining via acids process. Then the wafer is cut into the individual die or 'chips' which are then put onto the carrier - epoxy or ceramic - wires are attached to a series of metal 'pins' then the package is sealed, to thus have the finished 'device'
 
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did I mention that the new ATM's have a way to detect a chip...and also if blood is flowing thru your hand when it is scanned...that way no one can chop off your hand (or head) in the hopes of getting money if they did not take the mark.

Now WHY would they have presented that at a technology convention if it was not to be implemented at some point?
 

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here now, these machines were first presented 35 years ago at a tech connvention in Vegas

now they are being deployed....they have features (not yet revealed but with a software upgrade they will scan for the Dot, for how its blood flow in a finger...

cip the the explainer:

Banks in Japan have widely deployed biometrics-enabled ATMs that allow customers to withdraw currency or conduct other transactions after a successful fingerprint or finger vein scan. There are currently more than 80,000 biometrics-enabled ATMs in Japan and more than 15 million customers using them. Similar programs have been launched in China, Brazil and India.

the vein scan is needful because those resisting the MArk will not be allowed to buy, and therefore will starve, and therefore might take a hand from a marked person, but, if no blood flows the machine will not give cash.

In Japan now, and coming soon to your neighborhood.

If this is not proof of the diabolic nature, and how many years they have geared up for what is happening now

WHAT IS ??
 
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the man of sin, is either this guy, or this is his lieutenant.

 
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Good work, I agree, nanodots I will refuse, time to start farming.

I can add that the worship aspect and the spiritual nature of the biblical meaning of scripture suggest the ‘word of God’ is emblazoned on the inside of the foreheads of the saints, believers and faithful as a thought, a pattern, a way of life, devotion. Conscious decision. Those who are not conscious in their decisions… need to read Proverbs. Apply that to marks on the hand (works, actions, duties) and the forehead (thought, devotion) and you have the spiritual aspect of a system of post-modern enslavement of a confused, gaslit species who need to be woken up before they’re physically branded and swept away by complacency/complicity, and lack of decision & decernment.

The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;
To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck.
My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not

….
Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
 
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I wrote this last night, not knowing what Steve was going to talk about…which makes it even more salient.



In a court of law, one must present evidence, so here’s my opening statement.



Kha-rag-ma in greek new testament Charagma



Could this original greek word be a clue?



“he shall make all great and small to receive a mark, in their hand or gorehead, without which they cannot buy or sell” rev 14:9…typo on purpose.

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,



Now worship can mean admire and obey, worship has many avenues of attitudes that oppose the one true God and His teachings.



What could this mean



Strong’s concordance says”

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance

mark, brand (stigma in latin) stigmata



From a primary stizo (to "stick", i.e. Prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), i.e. (figuratively) scar of service -- mark.



Thayer’s adds

Strong's Concordance

stigma: a mark or brand

Original Word: στίγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: stigma
Phonetic Spelling: (stig'-mah)
Definition: a bed of leaves or rushes
Usage: a mark or brand.



So it’s a bed you sleep in, you believed you made your bed, the NEUTERED noun?

4742 stígma – properly, a brand mark burned into the skin; (figuratively) "holy scars" that go with serving Jesus as Lord (used only in Gal 6:17). But in Rev this becomes an unholy mark, given by a series of lies, which people believe because of the so called “miracles” that this man of sin performs, and what ST. Paul also referred to as the BIG LIE. The one he said people would believe “BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH”.

4742 /stígma ("brand-mark") refers to the literal scars on Paul from the lictor's rods at Pisidian Antioch, the stoning at Lystra, etc. These "marked Paul off" as the slave of Jesus (bearing "holy scars for Christ").

[Brand-marks (4742 /stígma), like "tatoos" (Gk stigmata), were burned into the skin of slaves in NT times – proving they belonged to a particular owner.]

Thayer's Greek Lexicon

STRONGS NT 4742: στίγμα

στίγμα, στιγματος, τό (from στίζω to prick; (cf. Latinstimulus, etc.; German stechen, English stick, sting, etc.; Curtius, § 226)), a mark pricked in or branded upon the body. According to ancient oriental usage, slaves and soldiers bore the name or stamp of their master or commander branded or pricked (cut) into their bodies to indicate what master or general they belonged to, and there were even some devotees who stamped themselves in this way with the token of their gods (cf. Deyling, Observations, iii., p. 423ff); hence, τά στίγματα τοῦ (κυρίου so Rec.) Ἰησοῦ, the marks of (the Lord) Jesus, which Paul in Galatians 6:17 says he bears branded on his body, are the traces left there by the perils, hardships, imprisonments, scourgings, endured by him for the cause of Christ, and which mark him as Christ's faithful and approved votary, servant, soldier (see Lightfoots Commentary on Galatians, the passage cited). (Herodotus 7, 233; Aristotle, Aelian, Plutarch, Lcian, others.)



Please focus on the definition to prick or stick, coupled with the idea of a scratching that one admires or agrees with, a token of their god



The DOT the DOT the DOT, read up on the DOT, just for starters.

If brave go to the patent office and look up all the patents of Microsoft, moderna and other Gates subsidiaries…it’s a scary movie, trust me.



Is a luciferse DOT (paart of the vaccine plan) a marking ot tatoo of sorts? YES

Is an etching put on the silicon chip inserted that can control health info and banking? YES

Does such a chip exit? YES. cHECK OUT dIGITAL aNGEL” AND THE SWIFT BANKING SYSTEM…both exist now, both use chip technology to “help” us. Miraculous?



If you were not allowed to fly, and another worse pandemic “happened”, (maybe as a result of what the first one did to people, (created by resistant strains brought on by the very vaccine meant to “save them all”), or rule them all as Tolkien might say,

What would be the result? Worse bugs, more restraints?



You not only could not fly, you could not shop for food, no admittance anywhere without having the vax, as evidence by the MARK, the peircing, the pricking, the stick, the mark of your owner.

Just as they scan your temperature now, on your forehead, they could scan you for the luminesance.



Since the mark proved whom your owner was, (only slaves wore such a mark in old days). Today, you are being told you are not a slave, yet half your salary goes to a corrupt group of ruler elites at minimum, even when you do not think or know so, it is happening. Every pair of jeans, every morsel of food is taxed before it even reaches you, the grower, the weavers, the trucker, the grocer etc., all pay taxes on their gas and goods to get it to you, so the cost is doubled when you buy it, and then you pay sales tax on top of that, and income and property tax etc etc. so all pay, don’t let their sinister lying system convince you you pay very little, because without their system you would keep the larger salary and goods would cost far less.



So you are slaves, and about to all be marked, with an etching, without which you won’t be able to take your wife to dinner much less move freely in society.



And what else can we attribute to the man promoting the DOT and other new technologies, HIS name= Will I am Gates……by his will you shall enter the gates, or not. Will I AM says so.



1; Let’s see…..he patents his health related things with assigned numbers always containing three sixes in some fashion. Always sixes, why is that? Is he picking the numbers or is someone at patent office making sure he gets those assigned numbers? Maybe to alert US, or maybe just to be in our faces?

2. His wife wears an inverted cross, only avowed Satanists wear these crosses to announce to others “in the know” their allegiance is to lucifer, not to God. (today show, and noy photo shopped)

3. He named his DOT substance “Luciferase”, knowing this would upset Christians the globalist literature speaks of Christians being the main deterant to their agenda.

4. He gave the most dangerous form of polio vaccine to millions, crippling thousands , even when a much safer form of polio vax was available.

5. He boasted he would make billions off this crisis, while he could have easily paid 4 cents per pill on ivermectin.

6. Instead he lectured us on how the populace must be reduced while simultaneously buying up homes and lands while the crisis, that he and his little Hitler Faux-Xi helped create.

7. HE funded WHO as much as our government, and HE knew what stocks to buy, and how to force folks out of their homes.

8.His banker father did the same thing in the last depression and other stock market crisises , they scooped up the life savings of their neighbors, all the while supporting and putting up more and more abortion clinics in poor and colored neighborhoods.

Sitting on the board of planned parenthood from its inception.

9. he boasted he would send mosquitos to vax everyone, whether they liked it or not.

10. he agrees with Al Gore’s book, and the Georgia guidestones, which both call for massive depopulation of the planet, but since most conservatives never read the book, or what is on the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES, they really do not believe this is how these people think, IN SPITE of the fact that they keep telescoping it RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES.

I could go on, but you start to get the point?



So now that they have the technology ready to be accepted, and have paid, along with Soros and others to steal the election, and place a senile puppet at the head of things, they think they can now complete their plan.

All the while Bill Gates is pretending to be a hero and care….

All the while Obama pretended to care, and gave our health care to some of the worst greed driven groups on the planet. The hospitals and insurance companies, owned by the same suspects, Make no mistake, after they give you 100 new formerly rare but now at epidemic level autoimmune diseases, they will make sure you have to pay them the rest of your substance just trying to survive such illnesses for a little while longer. Meanwhile they’ll call it health “care”.



Oh and the jews all say his William henry gates in gematria is adding up to 666.



But lets ignor all that. Let’s pretend they only mean us well.

When St paul said “they shall call eveil good, and call good evil, he wasn’t talking about these convoluted sons of beaches.



Let’s ignor all the signs that have been there for years.

Signs are for stupid people, right!!! Wrong, wrong wrong…signs are breadcrumbs that God keeps dropping hoping you will NOT check your brains at the door, and prove to them and God that you really are deplorable!!

Remember, ignorance means to push away truth with the hand, in hebrew…its us saying “talk to the hand” even when the only ones hurt by that, are OURSELVES.

William gates

he and his CEO Microsoft pals are buying up all the homes of the distressed unemployed waiters and waitresses and chef, lets ignor that he and his china loving buddies Buffet, Zuckerberg and others don’t care that they have impoverished half their neighbors meanwhile buying the elction by hiring cheaters and blackmailing politicians into submission.



Ignor How he bought out all his competitors, how he can track every word, every site you visit, and now find and track anyone in moments with facial recognition.

Lets forget that every one in military is being GPS and vaxxed and chipped/marked in ways they never would have dreamed, lets forget through 23 and me, ancestry and all the rest they are compiling who has what DNA, the better to harvest YOU for one of their own, and no, we aren’t becoming like China, of course not.



No one would every develop a drug that could drop you but preserve your organs long enough to use them on another. Wait, they did that.



No one would want a way to turn off your car while you are driving, or would they. No one would want to monitor you while you work at home, to see if you are gaming jerking off or sleeping, when you should be working for HIM. Oh wait…wait….you are running from them, they will stop you!



No one would ever invite you to a ranch only to take your life so they could replace you with one of their own (Scalia). Of course not, and

no united states president would ever send hundreds of billions of our dollars to a dictator who has been vpwing “death to America” for 40 years….unless his presidency was paid for, and he was installed by…that’s right, the folks who aren’t waiting any longer.



Enter the greatest liar since Caligula. (Front man for the antichrist?)

3 frohs, Gates, Obama, Fransis, the false prophet, the man of sin, and the vicarious (anti) Christ.



Oh wait, all these things have just been happening.



Maybe

Just maybe



if it looks like a duck



And walks like a duck



It’s a duck ?





I think I know whom the 3 frogs are.

One man is given power with the beast….for one hour. To understand one hour you need to know in Hebrew a day, week, were mistranslated, as was hour, I believe.



A day could be a year, a week could be 7 years, a day could also be a thousand years.

If a day were a year, then an hour would be 1/24th of that, or about 2 weeks.

But if a day were a thousand years, then the hour becomes 1000 divided by 24 or almost 42 years.

But a year in Hebrew got translated wrong also, so 42 years could mean 53 months…check out all the times 3 and ½ years (42 months) are mentioned.



This could mean that the woman who rided the beast (to protestants who read revelations this can only be the catholic church of Rev 18, only she isdrinking from fancy chalices clothed in red and purple (cardinal colors) and sitting on 7 hills (Rome). Only she killed more Christians than any other so is “drunk on the blood of the martrys”. Only she stood by while millions were drug off to ovens….



This polluted religious system, (many catholic agree because of Francis now proclaiming communism, abortion thru birth control etc etc are ok),

Is the woman that rides the beast. The BEAST, incidentally, is the nickname of the banking system in Brussels that runs the world banking known as SWIFT. SWIFT is owned jointly by catholic.muslim, and jewish bankers thru bank of America, Citibank, goldman sachs and other, the fed, the usual suspects.



Now combine that fact that Obama and the pope announced that “one man should control all the money (right after the mortgage crisis), with the banks now spying to see who donates to conservative causes, and the idea that they want one head honcho in control of every penny.



Combine that with the bible saying the man of sin will share power for one hour with the woman who rides (has chief control) of the beast. The church is called a woman, a she…as is America a she.

Vatican city, the angel when speaking to Daniel said, the woman that rides the beast is a CITY, again, “a she” is how Vatican city is referred.

Also who have phallis symbols in their places of honor? right in front of st. peters basilica, and the Washington monument. St peter wrote from rome, calling it Babylon. The same system is here, 7 of our supreme judges are catholic, and so forth, and they just refused to stand for truth, …put together with rev 18 calling the woman that rides the beast “the whore of babylon, babylon used the obelisk to honor their false Gods.

Put this with the Vatican bank being the largest on earth, and together with citibanlk, arab owed, and the other women, the monarchy and bank of England, and America with her greedy bankers..



Now we can see that the woman IS riding the beast, controlling the money system, and everyone even in poor countries now has a scanner pen (cost is 10 bucks, and they can participate in the cashless society.



They began preparing us for this years ago. The great reset will keep you from using your money as you please, in fact it will be phased out completely, star trek style.

Already in China there are several cities where cash is not accepted at all anywhere.

So the woman, who will tell you no guns, no travel without vaccine, and you need “reeducation” is here now, and has mounted her beast.

She will continue, now that she has prepped us, until all are ready for this reset. Then America will be disarmed, the last bastion of resistance and freedom, and those refusing the mark will be martyred just as their brethren were before them.

Meanwhile this gospel will be preached, the 3rd temple will be built, and when complete the man of sin, who had power with the woman riding the beast, likely to be Obama running united nations, or Xi, or maybe a corrupt pope, will march into the new jewish temple and declare that he is god.

The current pope is saying we are all god, as are some corrupted Christians.

Being part of the Lord, thru His grace, and haughtily announcing yourself to Be God, are 2 different things, one spirit is humble and knows its place, one is prideful and has no fear of God.



3 frogs, money system, mammon, 2/religious system/all false doctrine and false creeds. 3/, political systems that do not recognize God or their place in His governance or rule, who are bent on a world view devoid of faith in the Creator.



4 horseman….1 white horse rode in first….mohammed road a white horse, and deceived a third of the world with a religion, just as, prophecy said he would this began in 700 AD and continues to this day



2 red horse rome, the inquisition, stalin lenin mao hitler, a lot of blood was spilled. All aimed at killing chistians and jews…go figure . at least a billion killed by the sword when you add up not just the big genocides and wars but all the little one, one that continue even today to kill hundreds more each and every day somewhere in this world. Not to mention the aborted millions.

3 pale horse, the pale horse is symbolic of sickness. Sickness and death of our eart and oceans and peoples. All three have been sprayed, GMO”d vaccinated and medicated, oh yeah and radiated, until no country, no ocean, no land allowed to rest Shabbat, and so the health of the earth is failing, the ocean is dying, and the people are pale with sicknesses that man himself created with his science.

The whole idea is to find out, through forced vaccines, how to quickly react to bugs for a reason.

In case they don’t save the earth in time, which really is a lie anyway, the ones claiming they want to save it are the same ones doing next to nothing to stop their plastic fantastic manufacturing….they sream about melting glaciers, but continue to drive their polls poyces and dump hundreds more tons per day in the ocean they say they want to save.

What they are planning, is to get off planet, if the vaccines kill most of us, great they’ll save the planet, if the vaccine teaches them how to live on mars, because the great guinea pig event showed them what NOT to do…great, they will beome martians and survive. Sounds nuts but it is true. These are their plans.

4. black horse the death from all their pride shall come upon them. At a time they think not, He shall come, and gather His elect, and the rest shall weep, with nashing of teeth ask the caves to hide them, and the rocks to fall on them, and to hide them from the Living God. This means THEY WILL ALL KNOW, because the gospel will have been preached to them, they will know it is God’s judgment day, and think they can hide from Him underground!! Silly wsbbits, can’t hide from the Living God…sheesh.



But it will be too late then, for the mystery of ungodliness shall be upon them who refused.



I think its time the Christians who are catholic look at how Obama, the globalists, Pope Fransis, are all in agreement with this program. Most hospitals are catholic owned, the doctors who discovered African vaccines has a infertility hormone added to them,, were fired by the catholic hospitals they worked for.



I love Catholics and have a great debt to them, but its time they woke up, mystery Babylon is Rome, and their church which is the city/woman who rides the systems of Babylon.. Come out from among them and be ye separate.” That is what the bible says to do.
My gosh, Bannonfan,

I do not know how I entirely missed this post until now. This is well written and makes so much sense. I am just learning some of the Hebrew roots and beliefs about the Torah, the Shemitah, the resting of the land, and the connection to Revelation. I want to return to this, as I learn more. Thank you for this thorough expose.

I have a model however, as part of identity of antichrist; can we truly know what the mark of the beast is without knowing the identity of the antichrist? Is the mark of the beast, the same as the antichrist? Questions I have; the one event which I am watching is from:

Daniel 9:27 "He will make a strong covenant with leaders for one week [of years]. For half of the week, he will put a stop to the sacrifice and the grain offering. On the wing of detestable things the desolator will come and continue until the already decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator."

This is the clue in Scripture which gives us the exact identity of antichrist; when this covenant is (confirmed). What do you think?
 

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yes, entirely feasible, since the little dove on the credit cards was a backhand towards the Holy Spirit.
thats what I thought at first also, but then in some ways it just didn't fit "the whole council of God.
the idea of "the number of his name" cames to mind....and I thought ah ha, the digital numeric system, bar codes all that...

the whole council doctrine says it must fit with EVERY mention in scripture, not just with some and not others.

several logical progressions bear this out.

so due to this I do think the actual mark, scratch, or emblem was to be in the flesh, as it was with all slaves, and is what the Jews were forbidden to take, explicately, any tatoo, any mark in their flesh was forbidden to them by Mosaic law.

also Rev says one must take this mark "in the hand or in the forehead" indicating it is in one's flesh or body, not held in the hand, but on ones person, implanted or made permanent somehow, which for believers indicates a definitive acquiescence to the same.

and hence, if one takes it one can buy or sell, but if not taking it one cannot buy or sell...however if one does take it, then the wrath and judgment of God will abide upon that person.

ok, now go back to when Jesus said to him that knows to do and does not, to him this is sin. well the reverse is also that to him who knows not to do and does the thing anyway, to him this is sin. so to have the wrath abide permanently, means you must have known what you were doing when you did it....otherwise God would be unjust in allowing that to condemn you.

where that leaves us, is the christian community should know NOT to take this mark, and if they take it anyway, welll....

this is why folks are really trying to figure out who is lying and what are these people really up to...because those that love God need to know, in order not to be caught up in "the great lie" with which the whole world will be deceived (except believers who are not ignorant of his (satans) devices. pardon the double-entente, God put it there.

let no man deceive you...the end will not come until the man of sin is revealed. the man of sin is also the one forcing a mark on all great and small.
the man of sin will lie and make folks believe his lie. Otherwise no one would be deceived or go around deceiving others...so ferreting out truth from lies is quite an important effort. WE, the believers are suppose to work hard to figure this out, to make CERTAIN we are not among the deceived. even if that means we can no longer shop for food.

if they were not expecting that some folks, going hungry and the like, might not get desperate....remember, it isn't just the new monetary system, they will create food shortages for their own purposes but they know some folks will literally try to cut the hand off a person who has the mark, chip set. No telling what a guy with starving kids might do.

this is why they developed the ATMs to read blood flow, so they won't give cash to a hand without blood flow. this machine was developed 45 years ago, in anticipation of what famine and the new money system will have happen.

according to the AG Zsar of trumps there are no food shortages anywhere, there is surplus like crazy, the only shortages are for political motive, but there is pleanty of grain available to every nation...so maybe, cutting off elsalvador was to get them hungry enough to come here? Argentina, Venezuela? who has been trying to starve them out, and why...when grain abounds..why?
well it got cheap workers and dem voters here...

NOW here it comes watch this:


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Rev 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
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Rev 13:17
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Rev 14:9
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
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Rev 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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Rev 15:2
And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
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Rev 16:2
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
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Rev 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

OK what to do with rev 16['2...back to full council:

how about the part about a grievous sore on their body if they received the mark...doesn't this prove the mark is in one's flesh?
how would you get a sore if it was just in your credit card or phone??

doesn't a grievous sore resemble an auto-immune reaction of some type???

so this is when I left off thinking we are doing it already; but rather we are being prepared with all these devices and cards for the final device which WILL BE in our flesh.

what do you think of my reasoning??
I had also read that one of the "inventors" of the small lithium battery placed in the original grain size chip, (created in the 70-80's) {I thought I printed off the article at the time, but where did I place it?, so sorry} had no knowledge of the mark of the beast. He protested once his invention was taken that the lithium battery would need to be replace, because once the lithium was depleted, it would leak out after the battery "died", causing the sore mentioned in Scripture. He believe this after becoming a Christian and discovered the horror of what the lithium batteries inserted into the skin of the thumb and forefinger.

I have long thought this vaccine/chip/patch could be the mark; yet I remain open as I learn more about the Hebraic roots of Scripture. It is clear from verse Rev 14:9, both conditions must be met: "If any man worship the beast and his image, AND receive his mark in his forehead or in his hand."

I think that as Christians it is our responsibility to be knowledgeable about the potential of the jab being the mark; but then if it is the mark of the beast; don't we also have to know and WORSHIP that beast or his image. It seems to me that even if someone took the jab, but is clearly against satan/beast/image; then they are not necessarily worshipping satan/beast/image.
 
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I think its one of the mysteries in the bible (revelations is full of mysteries) & hence not necessarily what we think it will be or what we're looking out for.
If the bible defines its own terms and a 'mark' is usually shown in context to describe a behavior, but then in revelations 'mark on the hand' means something different- a physical mark- that meaning should also be grounded by usage & context someplace outside of revelations.
And how about 15:2, these people who got victory over the mark? It sounds like theyre different from the people who refused the mark altogether. Could it be they accepted the mark then later repented and scrubbed it off... or did they later repent and stop doing the bad behavior the beast demands that God terms a 'mark?'
As I am learning more about the Torah, all of Scripture must align on the foundational understanding of the Torah, from a Hebrew perspective. I heard a message two weeks ago about how between Genesis 1 and 2, the Court of heaven was convened because satan protested the decree that ADONAI decreed Yeshua was the king over the entire earth. This was before man was created, and satan's rebellion (the war in heaven) occurred.

Psalm 2:6-7 "I myself have installed my king on Tziyon, my holy mountain (Zion). I will proclaim the decree: ADONAI said to me, 'You are my son: today I became your father.'

Apparently, satan protested this decree and tested not only the Torah, but the righteous judgment of the heavenly courts. Satan argued against the Torah; and this is supposedly what Daniel's vision was about in Daniel 7:9-10 "As I watched, thrones were set in place; and the Ancient One took his seat. HIs clothing was white as snow; the hair on his head was like pure wool. His throne was fiery flames, with wheels of burning fire. A stream of fire flowed from his presence; thousands and thousands ministered to him, millions and millions stood before him. Then the court was convened, and the books were opened."

Isaiah 14:12-17, writes of the fall of satan from heaven after his rebellion and the verdict of the Ancient One was sealed. I need to study this more, because I could not take notes fast enough during the message. But that was the first time I had heard this teaching.

Feel free to correct this or interpret it differently, as I said I am now just learning the Torah from Hebrew roots.
 
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Good work, I agree, nanodots I will refuse, time to start farming.

I can add that the worship aspect and the spiritual nature of the biblical meaning of scripture suggest the ‘word of God’ is emblazoned on the inside of the foreheads of the saints, believers and faithful as a thought, a pattern, a way of life, devotion. Conscious decision. Those who are not conscious in their decisions… need to read Proverbs. Apply that to marks on the hand (works, actions, duties) and the forehead (thought, devotion) and you have the spiritual aspect of a system of post-modern enslavement of a confused, gaslit species who need to be woken up before they’re physically branded and swept away by complacency/complicity, and lack of decision & decernment.

The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;
To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck.
My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not

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Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
Good early morning, MajFauxPas:
I am inclined to agree with your position; Deuteronomy 6:1-8, also known as the She'mah, and the words which were to be placed inside the mezzuh, one of the most important commands in the Torah. But especially verse 8 "Tie them (these words) on your hand as a sign, put them at the front of headband around your forehead."

These are the words which are to be in our hearts and talked about everyday, whether at home or traveling, whether laying in bed or rising up. This supports a thought pattern, a way of life and devotion to the words of ADONAI.
 

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if you really want your noodle baked, look into Kushner....something very not right there.
Yes, and I have often thought about my former theory, thinking instead that I slightly missed the mark; keeping my eye on his keen interest in Israel. Wondering about the Abraham Accords and the role he has played, and possibly to play when trump is reinstated?...........
 

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