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Confusedpatriot

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How does a regime surrender power? History shows the record is bloody because those in power can't let go and can't be reformed. They have to be erased.

(As evidence, I present the 20th Century. Bloody regime change happened whenever Communism clashed with The Establishment. Russia, 1917. Hitler and Mussolini slaughtered communists in the 1920s and 30s. Spain, 1937, the Establishment slaughtered Communists after the Civil War. North Korea and North Vietnam communists slaughtered the Establishment following WW 2. The Communists take China, 1950and quickly begin to slaughter Nationalists. Castro takes Cuba, 1959 and thousands go against the wall. Chilean military ousted communist Allende in Chile, 1973. South Vietnam after the US abandonment, 1975. Pol Pot took over Cambodia, 1975. And so on.)

But the model for regime change was the French Revolution, 1789. The radicals (who were early communists) understood that the Aristocrats and Monarchists could not be reformed, would never change and would not surrender willingly. They had to be erased.

In 1802, after 13 years of strife, a dictator (Napoleon) grew tired of the chaos and began slaughtering the radicals in bloody purges. They would not surrender willingly and would not change. They had to be erased.

Will the Obama/Biden Administration, the Tech Oligarchy, the Corporate Oligarchy, the Pro-China Oligarchy . . . will they all walk away peacefully or will they have to be erased?

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How does a regime surrender power? History shows the record is bloody because those in power can't let go and can't be reformed. They have to be erased.

(As evidence, I present the 20th Century. Bloody regime change happened whenever Communism clashed with The Establishment. Russia, 1917. Hitler and Mussolini slaughtered communists in the 1920s and 30s. Spain, 1937, the Establishment slaughtered Communists after the Civil War. North Korea and North Vietnam communists slaughtered the Establishment following WW 2. The Communists take China, 1950and quickly begin to slaughter Nationalists. Castro takes Cuba, 1959 and thousands go against the wall. Chilean military ousted communist Allende in Chile, 1973. South Vietnam after the US abandonment, 1975. Pol Pot took over Cambodia, 1975. And so on.)

But the model for regime change was the French Revolution, 1789. The radicals (who were early communists) understood that the Aristocrats and Monarchists could not be reformed, would never change and would not surrender willingly. They had to be erased.

In 1802, after 13 years of strife, a dictator (Napoleon) grew tired of the chaos and began slaughtering the radicals in bloody purges. They would not surrender willingly and would not change. They had to be erased.

Will the Obama/Biden Administration, the Tech Oligarchy, the Corporate Oligarchy, the Pro-China Oligarchy . . . will they all walk away peacefully or will they have to be erased?

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I think you already know the answer but no one wants to think it or say it. The days for negotiating have come and gone
 

Confusedpatriot

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You're making many illogical jumps.
LOL

But you're much too busy and/or important to bother explaining what they are, correct? ;)

It's very simple. When Communists fight the Conservative/Capitalists, it's like Protestant fighting Catholics or Muslim fighting Christians.

The other side won't surrender and won't change. So throughout history, the only solution is to erase the opposition.

True . . . that's never been how politics have worked in America . . . but America has never been captured by Communists.

Please explain where this is "illogical." :cool:
 
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Confusedpatriot

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I think you already know the answer but no one wants to think it or say it. The days for negotiating have come and gone
No, I really don't know the answer because we're not the French. We don't have a history of picking up our torches and pitchforks and sacking Versailles.

Even the great Jan 6th Insurrection wasn't really ours . . . the Feds were in charge. LOL

So I can see another investigation into Hillary, Fauci, the Epstein saga, the FBI, etc . . . and I can even see finding them guilty . . . . but do we have the FEROCITY to eliminate our political enemies?

I don't think we do.

We could never do, for example, what Romanians did.

In December, 1989, Nicolae Ceausescu and his wife, fled the capital by helicopter. They were forced to land and arrested by the army. On Christmas Day, both were tried by military tribunal, taken right outside the room and shot. Hundreds of soldiers volunteered to do the shooting. The execution was filmed and later shown on Romanian TV.

Do you really see a situation where our political enemies (and anti-American, China conspirators in general) are put up against a wall and shot?

I don't. Which means they will live to fight another day. ??????? What does that mean to us? Are we always going to have to watch our backs?
 
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WHITEFRANK

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No, I really don't know the answer because we're not the French. We don't have a history of picking up our torches and pitchforks and sacking Versailles.

Even the great Jan 6th Insurrection wasn't really ours . . . the Feds were in charge. LOL

So I can see another investigation into Hillary, Fauci, the Epstein saga, the FBI, etc . . . and I can even see finding them guilty . . . . but do we have the FEROCITY to eliminate our political enemies?

I don't think we do.

We could never do, for example, what Romanians did.

In December, 1989, Nicolae Ceausescu and his wife, fled the capital by helicopter. They were forced to land and arrested by the army. On Christmas Day, both were tried by military tribunal, taken right outside the room and shot. Hundreds of soldiers volunteered to do the shooting. The execution was filmed and later shown on Romanian TV.

Do you really see a situation where our political enemies (and anti-American, China conspirators in general) are put up against a wall and shot?

I don't. Which means they will live to fight another day. ??????? What does that mean to us? Are we always going to have to watch our backs?
America as a predominantly white anglo-saxon and therefore civilized first world country has already gone. Fallen into dust. The way ahead is either violent counter-revolution (unlikely) or the slow decay into oblivion like Portugal or England, mixed race lower IQ people, savage customs and phoenician perversions and a general misery that permeates the surviving old stock who see but will not confront the decline.
John Glubb's Fate of Empires.
The fact that a group of rootless cosmopolitans do this deliberately to host nations is sort of beside the point since the foundation myth of the second half of the twentieth century precludes even being able to discuss them without groveling pseudo-christians coming out of the woodwork. But the fact remains, the engineered dual citizenship and mass illegal barbarian immigration has destroyed the real America.
Brazilification awaits.
One of the only possible salvations remaining is that the plague, originally a fake plandemic, will now become a real pandemic virus due to the mRNA meddling by the self appointed elite. And history shows that real plagues never ever permit the previous world order to survive once they disappear. And, the new world order the rulers from before the plague THINK they will control post-plague never survives either.
 

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Because if I am a fraud, you could expose me as someone totally illogical and ignorant of history. That would be juicy.

But I understand your dilemma.

We both know that I'm correct and you would lose any so-called "debate."

Therefore, you would hence be known as Confusedpatriot's b***h. :)

Ouch.
Frauds don't debate fair. They cheat and lie. I have nothing to gain by talking to them. Pearls before swine.
 
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Uaskedforit

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How does a regime surrender power? History shows the record is bloody because those in power can't let go and can't be reformed. They have to be erased.

(As evidence, I present the 20th Century. Bloody regime change happened whenever Communism clashed with The Establishment. Russia, 1917. Hitler and Mussolini slaughtered communists in the 1920s and 30s. Spain, 1937, the Establishment slaughtered Communists after the Civil War. North Korea and North Vietnam communists slaughtered the Establishment following WW 2. The Communists take China, 1950and quickly begin to slaughter Nationalists. Castro takes Cuba, 1959 and thousands go against the wall. Chilean military ousted communist Allende in Chile, 1973. South Vietnam after the US abandonment, 1975. Pol Pot took over Cambodia, 1975. And so on.)

But the model for regime change was the French Revolution, 1789. The radicals (who were early communists) understood that the Aristocrats and Monarchists could not be reformed, would never change and would not surrender willingly. They had to be erased.

In 1802, after 13 years of strife, a dictator (Napoleon) grew tired of the chaos and began slaughtering the radicals in bloody purges. They would not surrender willingly and would not change. They had to be erased.

Will the Obama/Biden Administration, the Tech Oligarchy, the Corporate Oligarchy, the Pro-China Oligarchy . . . will they all walk away peacefully or will they have to be erased?

hith-guilotine-150611741.jpg
Erased, cleansed, eradicated, fumigated, whatever you want to call it, that IS THE ANSWER.
But there in lies the problem. The "vast majority" don't have an inkling of who the enemy is. Even your original post only mentions "oligarchy's" of all sorts. And not the PEOPLE that own and control these "oligarchy's". And that is the problem. And I can assure you "they" know that. Not only do they hide behind terms like oligarchy or corporatism, or financial system but they have a 2nd tier of concealment. And that is the legal system and law firms.
And that is where the wheels fall off anything happening. The "vast majority" do not know or would rather pretend not to know rather than be called names.
 
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Confusedpatriot

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America as a predominantly white anglo-saxon and therefore civilized first world country has already gone. Fallen into dust. The way ahead is either violent counter-revolution (unlikely) or the slow decay into oblivion like Portugal or England, mixed race lower IQ people, savage customs and phoenician perversions and a general misery that permeates the surviving old stock who see but will not confront the decline.
John Glubb's Fate of Empires.
The fact that a group of rootless cosmopolitans do this deliberately to host nations is sort of beside the point since the foundation myth of the second half of the twentieth century precludes even being able to discuss them without groveling pseudo-christians coming out of the woodwork. But the fact remains, the engineered dual citizenship and mass illegal barbarian immigration has destroyed the real America.
Brazilification awaits.
One of the only possible salvations remaining is that the plague, originally a fake plandemic, will now become a real pandemic virus due to the mRNA meddling by the self appointed elite. And history shows that real plagues never ever permit the previous world order to survive once they disappear. And, the new world order the rulers from before the plague THINK they will control post-plague never survives either.
Lots to ponder in that response. Thank you.

First, I would note that the rootless cosmopolitans have painted themselves into a corner socially, because the people flooding into America hate them more than they hate white anglo-saxons. Second, I would note that the transition of United States into Disunited Special Interests has diluted their political power and influence. Third, the rise of alternative media (such as this forum) has also weakened their grip. I could go on, but the bottom line is that we're not where we were 50 years ago vis-a-vis . . . them.

I'm also not convinced that we only face the choice of violent counter-revolution or slow decay.

There is a third choice which I would call the Disunion of States or Regionalism. We can see the clear rise of Texas and Florida on the one hand . . . and then California and the Progressive Northwest on the other. There's also an interesting phenomenon of large metro areas (Houston, Austin, Atlanta, etc) divorcing politically from surrounding rural areas. Finally, as several researchers have recently noted, we're seeing a split between the college educated who support secular-progressivism and non-college workers who are Christian, conservative and anti-communist.

I can easily see the rise of one or more "conservative regions" (built and operated along Western European/traditional American values) . . . and one or more mixed-race socialist region which quickly devolves into anarchy, crime and general degeneracy (like all Democrat-run cities today).

The former Soviet Union is somewhat of a model. You can argue that the former Yugoslavia is also somewhat of a model.

But I would point to medieval Spain for our inspiration.

The Spanish fought an 800-year war against the non-Christian, non-Iberian invaders. The Spanish at that time were still primarily Visigoths . . . part of the Scandinavian and Germanic Goth-tribe They were essentially cousins of the Anglo-Saxons.

At their climax, the invaders literally had our cousins pinned against the wall of northern mountains. But the Visigoths fought back ferociously. Their separate regions would unite for one campaign after another and eventually pushed the invaders back into their final stronghold of Granada which fell in 1492.

I believe that it is in our Germanic nature to fight and resist so all is not lost.
 
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Uaskedforit

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Lots to ponder in that response. Thank you.

First, I would note that the rootless cosmopolitans have painted themselves into a corner socially, because the people flooding into America hate them more than they hate white anglo-saxons. Second, I would note that the transition of United States into Disunited Special Interests has diluted their political power and influence. Third, the rise of alternative media (such as this forum) has also weakened their grip. I could go on, but the bottom line is that we're not where we were 50 years ago vis-a-vis . . . them.

I'm also not convinced that we only face the choice of violent counter-revolution or slow decay.

There is a third choice which I would call the Disunion of States or Regionalism. We can see the clear rise of Texas and Florida on the one hand . . . and then California and the Progressive Northwest on the other. There's also an interesting phenomenon of large metro areas (Houston, Austin, Atlanta, etc) divorcing politically from surrounding rural areas. Finally, as several researchers have recently noted, we're seeing a split between the college educated who support secular-progressivism and non-college workers who are Christian, conservative and anti-communist.

I can easily see the rise of one or more "conservative regions" (built and operated along Western European/traditional American values) . . . and one or more mixed-race socialist region which quickly devolves into anarchy, crime and general degeneracy (like all Democrat-run cities today).

The former Soviet Union is somewhat of a model. You can argue that the former Yugoslavia is also somewhat of a model.

But I would point to medieval Spain for our inspiration.

The Spanish fought an 800-year war against the non-Christian, non-Iberian invaders. The Spanish at that time were still primarily Visigoths . . . part of the Scandinavian and Germanic Goth-tribe They were essentially cousins of the Anglo-Saxons.

At their climax, the invaders literally had our cousins pinned against the wall of northern mountains. But the Visigoths fought back ferociously. Their separate regions would unite for one campaign after another and eventually pushed the invaders back into their final stronghold of Granada which fell in 1492.

I believe that it is in our Germanic nature to fight and resist so all is not lost.
(notso)confusedpatriot,
Yes, yes, yes except the 3rd option. IMO, that can only happen as a result of the 1st option not on its own.
 
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Confusedpatriot

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Erased, cleansed, eradicated, fumigated, whatever you want to call it, that IS THE ANSWER.
But there in lies the problem. The "vast majority" don't have an inkling of who the enemy is. Even your original post only mentions "oligarchy's" of all sorts. And not the PEOPLE that own and control these "oligarchy's". And that is the problem. And I can assure you "they" know that. Not only do they hide behind terms like oligarchy or corporatism, or financial system but they have a 2nd tier of concealment. And that is the legal system and law firms.
And that is where the wheels fall off anything happening. The "vast majority" do not know or would rather pretend not to know rather than be called names.
I think that's too narrow a view.

Yes, "they" clearly control and hide in oligarchies but "they" are not alone nor are "they" necessarily the instigators. "They" have always been opportunists who exploit weaknesses in the system.

Our main enemy has always been US . . . we, ourselves . . . our fellow European-Americans . . . who took the brilliant ideas of the Age Of Enlightenment and re-invented them as communism.

Probably the best example I can think of was Robespierre . . . a brilliant French lawyer brought up as a devout Catholic. He took beautiful classical ideas from Rousseau, Montesquieu and early Romans. But in his feverish brain, this evolved into the insane bloodshed of the French Revolution.

Fast forward to Senator Edward Kennedy.

Emanuel Celler gets the blame for the Immigration Act of 1965 which eliminated the previous law restricting who could emigrate into America. (Hitler was actually an admirer of the old laws America used.)

But Celler was a small player. the real power for the Act came from Senators Hart and Kennedy . . . as well as progressive whites in the Johnson Administration.

I can cite a hundred examples like this.

Our clan has always betrayed us.
 
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Uaskedforit

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I think that's too narrow a view.

Yes, "they" clearly control and hide in oligarchies but "they" are not alone nor are "they" necessarily the instigators. "They" have always been opportunists who exploit weaknesses in the system.

Our main enemy has always been US . . . we, ourselves . . . our fellow European-Americans . . . who took the brilliant ideas of the Age Of Enlightenment and re-invented them as communism.

Probably the best example I can think of was Robespierre . . . a brilliant French lawyer brought up as a devout Catholic. He took beautiful classical ideas from Rousseau, Montesquieu and early Romans. But in his feverish brain, this evolved into the insane bloodshed of the French Revolution.

Fast forward to Senator Edward Kennedy.

Emanuel Celler gets the blame for the Immigration Act of 1965 which eliminated the previous law restricting who could emigrate into America. (Hitler was actually an admirer of the old laws America used.)

But Celler was a small player. the real power for the Act came from Senators Hart and Kennedy . . . as well as progressive whites in the Johnson Administration.

I can cite a hundred examples like this.

Our clan has always betrayed us.
I can not agree more, especially with your last statement. BUT Nobody on this forum states more often than I do that, WE ALLOW THIS.
And I'll add that the, "Too narrow a view", approx. 1.8% of the population (if u believe that), is much more than a VAST MAJORITY of all the oligarchy's that you mentioned and the one's you didn't. And not just in the USA.
We are being eaten alive, no devoured or liquified, from within. The christian masses have been so dumbed down and splintered that they don't trust their own instincts or senses. And would rather fall to their knees in prayer to solve their problems than what needs to be done.
I'll watch a while longer for action, action, action so as to not be a martyr and pariah to "their" cause. But I believe i'm honorable enough to face the truth before us and lone wolf it at some point.
I promised to Myself and the forum to permanently remove myself from the forum if per my prediction, McAuliffe doesn't win VA gov. election. Pretty sure that isn't going to be the reason I go away though.
 

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