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NvEric

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Sure, Why Not, Come One, Come All - it don't matter, just pile on in, no need to wipe your feet.

Immigration: Earned and Slowly

We owe no one entry into the USA. Immigration is a privilege in most all countries.
Allowing others to become a part of a country requires careful examination and sensible education.
New people can improve and uplift a country, but it must be done with a view to ensure the future.

There's the absolute requirement to educate immigrants in Citizenship. Without this factor,
respect to what the country's internal basis is about, they will become lost persons incapable
of supporting the system. Without duty first to the structure of government, and more importantly
the operation of government, it won't work to the function and purpose of its creation.

Ours is one of being created, and to hold that creation accountable so that freedom and safety are
protected as we live our lives. On this, I'll say we're in some bad shape today.

Over time, the country has worked less and less precisely from a lack of Citizen indoctrination to duty,
not only for newcomers, but the general population too. The message of government is there for you, but
without one mentioning your responsibility to return to it the force to keep it true, has been lost.
The message from long ago was to let government do the thinking for you, because they know best. And so,
over time, when the decay from lack of maintenance and exploitation of the system became large enough,
the very ones then said the system was the problem, not their lack of education and from their abandonment
of duty to preserve it.

Those railing against the system deny culpability in assisting the smoldering demise of citizenship.
The voices for citizenship as a duty have been here all along. While being out shouted and demonized,
the preservers of the system still hold true and is resurgent today. With dialog between the competing
voices being at such a pitch, two things worth mentioning have not been mentioned or addressed.

The country grows in population without discussion of the perils of being too large to govern with our present system.
The number of un-elected persons in government is too great and is unaccountable to anyone to a worthwhile degree.

These are structural imperatives affecting all else, besides the usual mention of morals, virtue, reason,
and the others things which guide thought and decision to effect a whole host of other things required too.
 

Stop Being Delusional

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Great post. This is their plan. They want to rid the world of the west. Make the entire world a third world hellhole so they have slaves they can control. It is in books, prophecies, hell they even say it daily. The issue with the invaders coming in that people really should be worried about is the crime rate soaring, raping, murders, sexual abuse of children and more child trafficking. That is what is scary. All over Europe this is happening and it is crazy bad. The crime in London alone has gone through the roof. The amount of child sex rings is insane. None of these people get arrested but if they do they are released the next day as it is deemed “racist” and that their “culture” allows such behaviour so it is okay to do. No joke. They have been trying their damnest to turn pedophilia into something normal in Britain. (No I don’t live there but I keep up with the underground news.)
 

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One of the most difficult obstacles in returning to the Constitution is the fluency in left-speak. I get owning the "Deplorables" mantle after being called a "Basket of Deplorables bu I feel like I'm watching one of the "Clerks" movies and they're talking about "Porch Monkeys...We're taking it back!" You can't do that with inherently pejorative terms, like "Nationalist", then "Right Wing" and "Populist". You call left wing statist, fascists, "Liberal"?

These are terms they use to influence us psychologically. This is not time to immerse ourselves in left-speak. H. Clinton called the investigations of her husband and their dealings a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy'" so we're right wingers? Really? Right wing is not the opposite of left wing just because the clintons said so. Collectivism, left or right wing are dangerous and they're almost indistinguishable. They are class systems with rulers and ruled and they always end in the enslavement and/or genocide of scapegoated people for the benefit of the ruling class. Right wing is Monarchist or Theism, meaning rule comes as edicts from the clerics, like Islamism and you know we founded this country with freedom of religion and freedom from a Monarch. Liberty, Prosperity, Personal responsibility and self-governance are not right wing constructs.

The wholly ignorant redefinition of the invasion of aliens is ethnic cleansing, so why do we call it "immigration"? Immigrant" is a legal term. If you have not filed with th government for a request to Naturalize or to become a permanent resident, you are legally not an immigrant. You are an illegally present alien. Immigrants are aliens but an illegally present alien is not an immigrant, by definition. Stop calling them immigrants. They are not! Constitutionally, their children are prevented from being Citizens, period. The way we have been treating tourist's and illegally present aliens' children, with Birthright Citizenship is illegal. See

UNITED STATES v. WONG KIM ARK. / Supreme Court / 1873​


This is no time for "Taking it Back" and to redefine terms. If you stupidly call yourself a "Nationalist", because Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon are taking it back, that's how easy it is to labeled a "White Nationalist" if you commit the crime, the sin of being born with little melanin pigment in your skin. Since when is "Populist or populism ever been anything more than a label for gullible, ignorant rubes that throw the informed populous of the informed consensus off.

Even the term, "Conservative" belongs to European political theory that will always be tied to actual right wing reactionaries That is not who we are, either "Progressive" used to belong to Teddy Roosevelt's makeshift party he utilized to combat the Republicans who'd shut him out. Who are "Progressives", now? It's a pretty term for a progression toward communism but it sounds like something is going well; it's another hoodwink and you people still use it.. The mindless, manipulative throwing around of the term,

"Our Democracy" is embarrassing The founders considered and summarily rejected rank democracy as the tyranny of the 51% over the 49%. We are a Constitutional, Representative Republic, not a democracy, not a democratic republic, not a representative democracy and if you've paid attention to what has happened to the small but important democratic portion of our republic, the democrats have adulterated that. Stop with the left-speak fluency, already; Speak English and learn some political theory before you dabble in pop culture politics.
 
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NvEric

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One of the most difficult obstacles in returning to the Constitution is the fluency in left-speak. I get owning the "Deplorables" mantle after being called a "Basket of Deplorables bu I feel like I'm watching one of the "Clerks" movies and they're talking about "Porch Monkeys...We're taking it back!" You can't do that with inherently pejorative terms, like "Nationalist", then "Right Wing" and "Populist". You call left wing statist, fascists, "Liberal"?

These are terms they use to influence us psychologically. This is not time to immerse ourselves in left-speak. H. Clinton called the investigations of her husband and their dealings a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy'" so we're right wingers? Really? Right wing is not the opposite of left wing just because the clintons said so. Collectivism, left or right wing are dangerous and they're almost indistinguishable. They are class systems with rulers and ruled and they always end in the enslavement and/or genocide of scapegoated people for the benefit of the ruling class. Right wing is Monarchist or Theism, meaning rule comes as edicts from the clerics, like Islamism and you know we founded this country with freedom of religion and freedom from a Monarch. Liberty, Prosperity, Personal responsibility and self-governance are not right wing constructs.

The wholly ignorant redefinition of the invasion of aliens is ethnic cleansing, so why do we call it "immigration"? Immigrant" is a legal term. If you have not filed with th government for a request to Naturalize or to become a permanent resident, you are legally not an immigrant. You are an illegally present alien. Immigrants are aliens but an illegally present alien is not an immigrant, by definition. Stop calling them immigrants. They are not! Constitutionally, their children are prevented from being Citizens, period. The way we have been treating tourist's and illegally present aliens' children, with Birthright Citizenship is illegal. See

UNITED STATES v. WONG KIM ARK. / Supreme Court / 1873​


This is no time for "Taking it Back" and to redefine terms. If you stupidly call yourself a "Nationalist", because Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon are taking it back, that's how easy it is to labeled a "White Nationalist" if you commit the crime, the sin of being born with little melanin pigment in your skin. Since when is "Populist or populism ever been anything more than a label for gullible, ignorant rubes that throw the informed populous of the informed consensus off.

Even the term, "Conservative" belongs to European political theory that will always be tied to actual right wing reactionaries That is not who we are, either "Progressive" used to belong to Teddy Roosevelt's makeshift party he utilized to combat the Republicans who'd shut him out. Who are "Progressives", now? It's a pretty term for a progression toward communism but it sounds like something is going well; it's another hoodwink and you people still use it.. The mindless, manipulative throwing around of the term,

"Our Democracy" is embarrassing The founders considered and summarily rejected rank democracy as the tyranny of the 51% over the 49%. We are a Constitutional, Representative Republic, not a democracy, not a democratic republic, not a representative democracy and if you've paid attention to what has happened to the small but important democratic portion of our republic, the democrats have adulterated that. Stop with the left-speak fluency, already; Speak English and learn some political theory before you dabble in pop culture politics.
Good post.
I agree terms used are imprecise, over used, and over-loaded too - which is why I try to be careful to be truthful.
Your "The wholly ignorant redefinition of the invasion of aliens is ethnic cleansing," has crossed my mind as to a reason for the Invasion.
Those coming in today are NOT immigrants, and must be repelled with force.
 

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