THE TRUTH ABOUT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATES OF KAMALA HARRIS NOW REVEAL ---- Kamala Harris is a citizen of Jamaica or India, but not the United States ---

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Harris was born Oct. 20, 1964. At the time of her birth, her father Donald Jasper Harris, was a citizen of Jamaica, and her mother Gopalan Shyamala, was a citizen of India. Therefore, the laws of both Jamaica and India are clear: Kamala Harris was either a citizen of Jamaica, pursuant to Section 3C(b) of the Constitution of Jamaica, or a citizen of India, pursuant to Part II, Sec. 5 of the Constitution of India.

Section 3C(b), Citizenship by decent, Jamaica (Constitution) Order in Council 1962. (Jul. 25, 1962). Caribbean and North Atlantic Territories, Statutory Instruments, 1962 No. 1550, Amendments through 2011 appended. Queen Elizabeth and Privy Council.
Section 3C(b), Citizenship by decent, Jamaica (Constitution) Order in Council 1962. (Jul. 25, 1962). Caribbean and North Atlantic Territories, Statutory Instruments, 1962 No. 1550, Amendments through 2011 appended. Queen Elizabeth and Privy Council.
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Part II, Sec. 5, Citizenship. The Constitution of India. (Nov. 9, 2015). Government of India, Ministry of Law and Justice. Part II, Sec. 5, Citizenship. The Constitution of India. (Nov. 9, 2015). Government of India, Ministry of Law and Justice.


Kamala Devi Harris. (Oct. 20, 1964). Birth Certificate, m. Goplan Shyamala, Caucasian Indian, Age 26, f. Donald Jasper Harris, Age 26, Jamaican, File No. 64-295984, Alameda Cty. Oakland, CA. Kamala Devi Harris. (Oct. 20, 1964). Birth Certificate, Mother: Goplan Shyamala, Caucasian Indian, Age 26; Father: Donald Jasper Harris, Age 26, Jamaican, File No. 64-295984, Alameda County, Oakland, California.
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Kamala Harris is a citizen of Jamaica or India, but not the United States


Tyla, Douglas, and Michael explain why Kamala Harris must immediately disclose her naturalization papers. We do not see any proof that she is a United States citizen.

U. S. Senator Kamala Harris is not a United States citizen. CANNOT BE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THE QUESTION TO ASK

U.S. Senator Kamala Harris must be arrested for immigration fraud. ----- article written august 11 2020 by state of the nation -----
 

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Harris was born Oct. 20, 1964. At the time of her birth, her father Donald Jasper Harris, was a citizen of Jamaica, and her mother Gopalan Shyamala, was a citizen of India. Therefore, the laws of both Jamaica and India are clear: Kamala Harris was either a citizen of Jamaica, pursuant to Section 3C(b) of the Constitution of Jamaica, or a citizen of India, pursuant to Part II, Sec. 5 of the Constitution of India.

Section 3C(b), Citizenship by decent, Jamaica (Constitution) Order in Council 1962. (Jul. 25, 1962). Caribbean and North Atlantic Territories, Statutory Instruments, 1962 No. 1550, Amendments through 2011 appended. Queen Elizabeth and Privy Council.
Section 3C(b), Citizenship by decent, Jamaica (Constitution) Order in Council 1962. (Jul. 25, 1962). Caribbean and North Atlantic Territories, Statutory Instruments, 1962 No. 1550, Amendments through 2011 appended. Queen Elizabeth and Privy Council.
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Part II, Sec. 5, Citizenship. The Constitution of India. (Nov. 9, 2015). Government of India, Ministry of Law and Justice. Part II, Sec. 5, Citizenship. The Constitution of India. (Nov. 9, 2015). Government of India, Ministry of Law and Justice.


Kamala Devi Harris. (Oct. 20, 1964). Birth Certificate, m. Goplan Shyamala, Caucasian Indian, Age 26, f. Donald Jasper Harris, Age 26, Jamaican, File No. 64-295984, Alameda Cty. Oakland, CA. Kamala Devi Harris. (Oct. 20, 1964). Birth Certificate, Mother: Goplan Shyamala, Caucasian Indian, Age 26; Father: Donald Jasper Harris, Age 26, Jamaican, File No. 64-295984, Alameda County, Oakland, California.
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Kamala Harris is a citizen of Jamaica or India, but not the United States


Tyla, Douglas, and Michael explain why Kamala Harris must immediately disclose her naturalization papers. We do not see any proof that she is a United States citizen.

U. S. Senator Kamala Harris is not a United States citizen. CANNOT BE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THE QUESTION TO ASK

U.S. Senator Kamala Harris must be arrested for immigration fraud. ----- article written august 11 2020 by state of the nation -----
Don't hold your breath on that one. This is what the left is all about - lies, deception, illegal acts, and yet nothing happens.
 

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Yes, she is a natural born citizen. This is long settled.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), was a landmark decision[4] of the U.S. Supreme Court which held that "a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China",[5] automatically became a U.S. citizen at birth.[6] This decision established an important precedent in its interpretation of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.[7] Any child born in the United States is a US citizen from birth, with the sole exception of children born to a parent or parents with diplomatic immunity, since such parent is not a "subject to the US law" as the decision requires.
 
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Should point out, the source is a chicom propaganda site. They also claim the coronavirus was a bioweapon attack by the west against China...

Yes, Harris is a US citizen.
Yes, the USA really landed people on the moon.
No, Trump cannot call military tribunals to try US civilians.,
Yes, the coronavirus really escaped from the lab in Wuhan.

etc...

And yes, the election was stolen from Trump. But not by Chinese or Pakistani hackers. It was stolen by ballot stuffing and tabulation manipulation in those large counting centers in swing states.
 
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There's nothing to take up. If you are a US citizen, you are either natural born or naturalized.

She has been a US citizen since her birth in Oakland, CA., which makes her. a "natural born citizen". (parents were not diplomats which is the only exception)
 
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There's nothing to take up. If you are a US citizen, you are either natural born or naturalized.

She has been a US citizen since her birth in Oakland, CA., which makes her. a "natural born citizen". (parents were not diplomats which is the only exception)
Wrong, both parents have to be US citizens to be an "Natural Born Citizen". Which is required to be POTUS, or VPOTUS.
 
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highsea

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Wrong, both parents have to be US citizens to be an "Natural Born Citizen". Which is required to be POTUS, or VPOTUS.
As I previously pointed out, was settlled a long time ago. You can cite a case that overturned US v. Wong?

"United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), was a landmark decision[4] of the U.S. Supreme Court which held that "a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China",[5] automatically became a U.S. citizen at birth."

The only unsettled part of the question is for children born of illegal immigrants. If someone is not lawfully in the country, do their children still have birthright citizenship?

Currently, they are granted US citizenship at birth. There is debate among legal scholars if the 14th amendment really intended this. Some say yes, others say no.

But for people born in the US- as long as the parents are here lawfully and do not have diplomatic immunity, there is no debate. They are all natural born citizens.
 

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As I previously pointed out, was settlled a long time ago. You can cite a case that overturned US v. Wong?

"United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), was a landmark decision[4] of the U.S. Supreme Court which held that "a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China",[5] automatically became a U.S. citizen at birth."

The only unsettled part of the question is for children born of illegal immigrants. If someone is not lawfully in the country, do their children still have birthright citizenship?

Currently, they are granted US citizenship at birth. There is debate among legal scholars if the 14th amendment really intended this. Some say yes, others say no.

But for people born in the US- as long as the parents are here lawfully and do not have diplomatic immunity, there is no debate. They are all natural born citizens.
You're confusing citizen with natural born citizen, or you're just pushing an agenda...
 

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"When both parents are citizens and the child is born on US soil then the children are natural born. When only one or neither parent is a citizen then the child is also only a 14th Amendment citizen with all the same rights as a Natural Born Citizen except that of the President.

Many people confuse the term Native Born with Natural Born. The meaning of the terms is quite different now. The meaning of Natural Born has never changed. The Native born meaning changed in 1866 with the adding of the 14th Amendment."
 

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You're confusing citizen with natural born citizen, or you're just pushing an agenda...
I am doing neither. I am stating the law as it stands in the US under the Constitution, the 14th amendment, and a landmark SCOTUS decision.

Also, if both parents had to be US citizens, that would have disqualified many of the early presidents.

As I said, there are 2 types of citizen. Naturalized and natural born. Kamala is the latter version. Her citizenship is by birthright.

There is no legal distinction between "native born" or "natural born", no matter what you would like it to mean. There is no contstitutional definition of "natural born". There is only precedent, and precedent clearly makes her a natural born US citizen.
 

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I am doing neither. I am stating the law as it stands in the US under the Constitution, the 14th amendment, and a landmark SCOTUS decision.

Also, if both parents had to be US citizens, that would have disqualified many of the early presidents.

As I said, there are 2 types of citizen. Naturalized and natural born. Kamala is the latter version. Her citizenship is by birthright,
List them.
 

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I am doing neither. I am stating the law as it stands in the US under the Constitution, the 14th amendment, and a landmark SCOTUS decision.

Also, if both parents had to be US citizens, that would have disqualified many of the early presidents.

As I said, there are 2 types of citizen. Naturalized and natural born. Kamala is the latter version. Her citizenship is by birthright.

There is no legal distinction between "native born" or "natural born", no matter what you would like it to mean. There is no contstitutional definition of "natural born". There is only precedent, and precedent clearly makes her a natural born US citizen.
Her parents were not US citizens at the time of her birth.
 
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This is a good piece, but it is not saying what you think. It is advocating for a change in the law.

"If you believe that to be a "Natural Born Citizen", one needs to be born on US soil to Two US Citizen Parents, and are willing to help fight for that, because that's what its going to be, a fight, then we can use your support and would appreciate any help you can give."
 

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