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shall the congress put in place basic rules for voting that shall be followed throughout the nation. Answer yes. Even without the senate, those voting nay will have a hard time explaining why.

I have Put together 7 simple rules for voter ID and 7 more for voting machine processes. States can add more where appropriate. (like pick up absentees for shut-ins, in Alaska), but make the basic 7 agreeable to all states. But the basic 14 should be agreed upon by all states.

Please remember, that to defraud one is to defraud and steal from all. To fundamentally change America in illegal ways, is to to deprive the entire world of leadership that has produced more progress in 200 years than in the former 2000. The world will not forgive those who destroyed it, and neither will the Lord.

voter ID

1. each voter shall register within the next 2 years, through the DMV in their state. Each state shall hire sufficiently to accommodate the slight extra processing time. Proof of birth and address required, including utility bills, and photo a ID required in every state, just like for the license. Voter must remove veil/mask, when Photo ID is created and again when signing in at the poll and be viewed by poll workers. No exceptions even for "religious" reasons. We cannot allow any group to circumvent the process under the guise of religion. Otherwise one group can register again and again,

2 . voter needing to vote absentee must have a doctors note explaining the shut-in's designated exception, (i.e.high risk (HR), or extreme pain EP or or military papers to prove an overseas posting. (MOP), otherwise, show up, have your ID. Do your duty.

3. Citizenship an absolute requirement. Residence in the state of choice of not less than 30 days; along with proof of cancellation from the prior state. Meaning each DMV must have a form you call fill out, on line or in person, and print/save, to show proof in your new state that you withdrew from the rolls in your former state. Military ballots must be provided within 30 days ahead of election day, so their ballots will no longer be late, or discounted for any reason; (as dems tried repeatedly to do Obama years).

4. Verified addresses. Election board shall verify all addresses are actual residences both through google map street views and a rental agreement or home deed/contract shall be presented at time of registry.

5. each voter shall sign in the presence of a minimum of 2 poll workers one from each party, and the photo ID shall be viewed, and the new voter/driver ID shall have an Rfid similar to those in new banking chips, so that forgery becomes a thing of the past. The Rfid is run and it proves you are you, assigns the location and time of your vote to a data base so that false votes can be proven.
Cameras can run at the sign in station so that fakers or dual voters shall be caught, just like now when you run a red light, they take your picture.

6. Voter fraud laws shall be strictly enforced in ALL states. Penalties shall be 2 years community service for one false attempt, 2 years jailtime for a second offence. And 5 year minimum for ballot harvesting, false ballot boxes, multiple fraudulent attempts to vote, or any organized attempt to add multiple ballots to the process. People teaching others as how to commit these frauds shall get 10 years minimum sentences. Whistle blower shall receive protections and some form of reward, especially if they have recorded proof of the instructors behavior and words.

7. no write-ins. If you mess up, you get a shredded on the spot and new blank ballot to fill out, eliminating write-ins eliminates a poll worker guessing as to what you meant here and there, same with x outs, just start over. If someone wants to run, let them get on the ballot, if you want to write in daffy duck, well grow up.

these are my top 7...suggestions are welcome.

7 RULES FOR VOTING MACHINES AND POLL WORKERS

1. the election board shall purge the voter rolls monthly of all movers, convicted felons, and deaths.

2. all hospitals and funeral homes, nursing homes, courts, probation officers, Ice deportations, and jails shall be required by law to report monthly to their states DMV a list of the deceased, newly convicted, and relocations, inclusive of name age and SS number. Failure shall result in hefty fines. If they can pay their bills once a month they can report their no longer eligible citizen. The state also shall enforce county by county that the rolls are purged, failure to keep these rolls up to date shall result in dismissal of entire election board and the county commissioners shall appoint all new people to those position who are willing to do the work, or hire someone to do it. Do your jobs or you are fired, (swamp rats.)

3. since you cannot possibly count all ballots in a day...in states with 5 million to a city...150 to 250 million votes...it can't happen. next best thing is...scan votes in Made in America" machines designed by our military programmers, and guarded in vaults (lots of old bank vaults around to insure protection, a chilly warehouse is stupid.). These machine must be tested to a fair thee well, then certified and sealed and delivered under guard to polling stations. The machine shall have NO access. NO USB ports, no upgrades can occur without returning them to factory and special tools to open them. Thus no one can reprogram them to weight the votes at 3 am. Each machine shall have a retractable electric cord (like a vacuum cleaner. With a wax security seal. It cannot be retracted until election day without breaking the seal, no machine with a broken seal can be installed. This way no tampering is possible anywhere at all. After the voting each machine shall be sealed differently. The seals shall be alter each year voting occurs and they shall not be available to reseal until election day. Now you have an open, then reclosed machine with 5 protections.

4. Special guards from each party shall be stationed at each row of booth machines and be monitoring them the entire day. replaced by others for bathroom breaks only, they shall not be left alone or unobserved ever. No need for electric machines this way or wired of any kind on the vote booths, a simple mark on each dot that a scanner can read. No poll workers shall stand alone at any machine, except for when they themselves vote.

5. the designation "none of the above" shall be available in each choice, so that an empty slot will not be guessed at or voted by a poll worker...each voter can choose "none of the above" if they don't wish to approve, or just don't know who is who....and this way each ballot will be filled out entirely. Eliminating ALL adjudication by poll/false voters deciding your mind for you.
In fact, marking a ballot shall be deemed attempted fraud. No poll worker shall have a marking pen at their work station. Period.

6. No poll workers shall help any voter to decide. If a new or elderly voter needs help, 2 workers, one from each party, will help them learn HOW to insert and mark a ballot, if they don't see and understand the video... but no suggestions shall be allowed as to what decisions should be. Suggestions from a poll worker shall result in immediate dismissal of that worker.
each state shall use a premade video to help new voters in their own language to understand how the process works and a video disc shall be available at each location, and online. So an approved DIY video, in all major languages, one to 2 minutes, shall help each new voter who comes alone and is confused.

7. Two poll workers one from each party shall discern each voters signature, the two observer/witnesses shall be allowed to oversee, and hear, and fill in for their party poll rep when the reps need a break. The observers shall be allowed to observe from 6 ft. away and provided chairs for the day. They must be in good health, of normal temperature, and must honor the mask regulations in their state or if any poll worker requests them to, until such regulations are lifted. If you object to masks, learn the stats in animal studies, if still not convinced, work to recall your gov-ignorer.


finally, one rule for the Stacy Abrams of the world, if you illegally rewrite election law, unless we were hit by an asteroid and nukes, and the legislature is all dead....if you rewrite the rules like some little god... YOU GO TO JAIL.
no difference between this and any other major crime....except instead of murdering a small group of school children, you just tried to murder a nation.

Best reason to reelect our president, so those who usurped our laws to steal our freedoms, can pay with their own freedom!
 
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shall the congress put in place basic rules for voting that shall be followed throughout the nation. Answer yes. Even without the senate, those voting nay will have a hard time explaining why.

I have Put together 7 simple rules for voter ID and 7 more for voting machine processes. States can add more where appropriate. (like pick up absentees for shut-ins, in Alaska), but make the basic 7 agreeable to all states. But the basic 14 should be agreed upon by all states.

Please remember, that to defraud one is to defraud and steal from all. To fundamentally change America in illegal ways, is to to deprive the entire world of leadership that has produced more progress in 200 years than in the former 2000. The world will not forgive those who destroyed it, and neither will the Lord.

voter ID

1. each voter shall register within the next 2 years, through the DMV in their state. Each state shall hire sufficiently to accommodate the slight extra processing time. Proof of birth and address required, including utility bills, and photo a ID required in every state, just like for the license. Voter must remove veil/mask, when Photo ID is created and again when signing in at the poll and be viewed by poll workers. No exceptions even for "religious" reasons. We cannot allow any group to circumvent the process under the guise of religion. Otherwise one group can register again and again,

2 . voter needing to vote absentee must have a doctors note explaining the shut-in's designated exception, (i.e.high risk (HR), or extreme pain EP or or military papers to prove an overseas posting. (MOP), otherwise, show up, have your ID. Do your duty.

3. Citizenship an absolute requirement. Residence in the state of choice of not less than 30 days; along with proof of cancellation from the prior state. Meaning each DMV must have a form you call fill out, on line or in person, and print/save, to show proof in your new state that you withdrew from the rolls in your former state. Military ballots must be provided within 30 days ahead of election day, so their ballots will no longer be late, or discounted for any reason; (as dems tried repeatedly to do Obama years).

4. Verified addresses. Election board shall verify all addresses are actual residences both through google map street views and a rental agreement or home deed/contract shall be presented at time of registry.

5. each voter shall sign in the presence of a minimum of 2 poll workers one from each party, and the photo ID shall be viewed, and the new voter/driver ID shall have an Rfid similar to those in new banking chips, so that forgery becomes a thing of the past. The Rfid is run and it proves you are you, assigns the location and time of your vote to a data base so that false votes can be proven.
Cameras can run at the sign in station so that fakers or dual voters shall be caught, just like now when you run a red light, they take your picture.

6. Voter fraud laws shall be strictly enforced in ALL states. Penalties shall be 2 years community service for one false attempt, 2 years jailtime for a second offence. And 5 year minimum for ballot harvesting, false ballot boxes, multiple fraudulent attempts to vote, or any organized attempt to add multiple ballots to the process. People teaching others as how to commit these frauds shall get 10 years minimum sentences. Whistle blower shall receive protections and some form of reward, especially if they have recorded proof of the instructors behavior and words.

7. no write-ins. If you mess up, you get a shredded on the spot and new blank ballot to fill out, eliminating write-ins eliminates a poll worker guessing as to what you meant here and there, same with x outs, just start over. If someone wants to run, let them get on the ballot, if you want to write in daffy duck, well grow up.

these are my top 7...suggestions are welcome.

7 RULES FOR VOTING MACHINES AND POLL WORKERS

1. the election board shall purge the voter rolls monthly of all movers, convicted felons, and deaths.

2. all hospitals and funeral homes, nursing homes, courts, probation officers, Ice deportations, and jails shall be required by law to report monthly to their states DMV a list of the deceased, newly convicted, and relocations, inclusive of name age and SS number. Failure shall result in hefty fines. If they can pay their bills once a month they can report their no longer eligible citizen. The state also shall enforce county by county that the rolls are purged, failure to keep these rolls up to date shall result in dismissal of entire election board and the county commissioners shall appoint all new people to those position who are willing to do the work, or hire someone to do it. Do your jobs or you are fired, (swamp rats.)

3. since you cannot possibly count all ballots in a day...in states with 5 million to a city...150 to 250 million votes...it can't happen. next best thing is...scan votes in Made in America" machines designed by our military programmers, and guarded in vaults (lots of old bank vaults around to insure protection, a chilly warehouse is stupid.). These machine must be tested to a fair thee well, then certified and sealed and delivered under guard to polling stations. The machine shall have NO access. NO USB ports, no upgrades can occur without returning them to factory and special tools to open them. Thus no one can reprogram them to weight the votes at 3 am. Each machine shall have a retractable electric cord (like a vacuum cleaner. With a wax security seal. It cannot be retracted until election day without breaking the seal, no machine with a broken seal can be installed. This way no tampering is possible anywhere at all. After the voting each machine shall be sealed differently. The seals shall be alter each year voting occurs and they shall not be available to reseal until election day. Now you have an open, then reclosed machine with 5 protections.

4. Special guards from each party shall be stationed at each row of booth machines and be monitoring them the entire day. replaced by others for bathroom breaks only, they shall not be left alone or unobserved ever. No need for electric machines this way or wired of any kind on the vote booths, a simple mark on each dot that a scanner can read. No poll workers shall stand alone at any machine, except for when they themselves vote.

5. the designation "none of the above" shall be available in each choice, so that an empty slot will not be guessed at or voted by a poll worker...each voter can choose "none of the above" if they don't wish to approve, or just don't know who is who....and this way each ballot will be filled out entirely. Eliminating ALL adjudication by poll/false voters deciding your mind for you.
In fact, marking a ballot shall be deemed attempted fraud. No poll worker shall have a marking pen at their work station. Period.

6. No poll workers shall help any voter to decide. If a new or elderly voter needs help, 2 workers, one from each party, will help them learn HOW to insert and mark a ballot, if they don't see and understand the video... but no suggestions shall be allowed as to what decisions should be. Suggestions from a poll worker shall result in immediate dismissal of that worker.
each state shall use a premade video to help new voters in their own language to understand how the process works and a video disc shall be available at each location, and online. So an approved DIY video, in all major languages, one to 2 minutes, shall help each new voter who comes alone and is confused.

7. Two poll workers one from each party shall discern each voters signature, the two observer/witnesses shall be allowed to oversee, and hear, and fill in for their party poll rep when the reps need a break. The observers shall be allowed to observe from 6 ft. away and provided chairs for the day. They must be in good health, of normal temperature, and must honor the mask regulations in their state or if any poll worker requests them to, until such regulations are lifted. If you object to masks, learn the stats in animal studies, if still not convinced, work to recall your gov-ignorer.


finally, one rule for the Stacy Abrams of the world, if you illegally rewrite election law, unless we were hit by an asteroid and nukes, and the legislature is all dead....if you rewrite the rules like some little god... YOU GO TO JAIL.
no difference between this and any other major crime....except instead of murdering a small group of school children, you just tried to murder a nation.

Best reason to reelect our president, so those who usurped our laws to steal our freedoms, can pay with their own freedom!
Sounds great!!! plz forward to the Congress and senate they need help doing their jobs!!!
 
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If the election laws already on the books were followed, we wouldn't be having this conversation...

I can still come up with reforms...
Proof of citizenship and State-issued photo ID is required to vote for any Federal office.
Ban "no excuse" mail-in voting nationwide.
All counting done at the precinct level.
All tabulation machines certified by NIST for accuracy, no network capability permitted.
All ballot images are public information.
Once the counting starts, you can't stop until it's finished.
No "finding ballots" after election day. If a ballot is lost, the chain of custody is broken.
Only hand marked ballots count. No ballot marking devices allowed.
 
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thank you, that was a great summary of the ideas.

everyone should add thoughts, I'll forward all of them to our senators after hathering them here.

I know some of you hate more fed regulation, but this is the ONE legitimate exception. Our founders said roads and military, but if they had the argument after this election, I feel certain they would take this on.

You can't allow some states to bow out of crucial ideas while other comply. Like without photo ID its a hundred times easier to cheat. Even ONE state can throw an election....have we not just seen this play out?

That's why some things MUST become homogenous across all 50 states, the purpose of the federal government is to A. provide for the defense, keep a highways system operative, and should also be to have secure elections THROUGH BASIC NATION WIDE REQUIREMENTS.

If letting thousands of fake unsecure elections boxes be put up by one panty_waist (never made it out of his parents basement emotionally stunted) billionaire (MZ) is where we are at, then obviously we need some universal voter.election reform nationwide.

OBVIOUSLY.
 
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folks against federal voter reform-
zuckerbitch
Jeff bozos
ChaChing China,
Barry Olame-a

shall I continue.
 

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well its probably moot anyway because both state and fed are feckless cowards. I'll be surprised if anything really changes.
would like to be surprised, but do dems have the will to do anything not superficial to change elections?? chuckle.

Yes they are in control and yes our hope, is that they
ll shoot themselves in the foot once again, as satan is not a good shot this is our hope. Their refusal will seal opinions.
Even 17% of democrats believe the election was stolen at latest pollling....not a good sign for them.
But Yes. They have the will to let millions of illegals too ignorant to know they've done nothing for the people they claim to represent. Jobs gone, factories rusting closed, whole towns boarded up, no unions, whom did they represent?????
Both parties complicit. Greed collusion corporate controlled sell outs.

only reason I'm still a republican, lesser of 2 evils.
split the party and never will have power again.
won't happen. dem/berrnie, stupid on their part, they won't go there again, or maybe they stupidly will, one can hope.

Idealism is the enemy of real change. Hegal was right there, if sythesis is all you can get, and the alternative is nothing, take the path that get you somewhere...over nowhere.

no stolen election...repeated 900 times a day on 96% of stations
a month later...
Say a lie often enough and people will believe it.
russia said that. nothing to see here, and sheeple believed it...robert's believed that he might get his tuckis in a pinch...same difference. Cowards and the brain dead...who knew.

maybe they couldn't win texas in 2020...but they will sure as hell try to change that. A few million newbies we give welfare/food stamps/ health care/medication/free lawyers to...as soon as they get here should do the trick.

but its ok, my grandkids don't know yet that they each owe 600k at birth because of the debt we hoisted on them, and expect them to pay off. OH yeah, and they need to pay for what great grand dad didn't do 300 years ago....because after all, they and he are not from africa!

I wonder could I sue Gengis and Alexander and Cyrus for reparations...I mean, after all, they messed with us big time!
wonder if China, Greece and Iran will buy into that, and repair my family. I'm figurin they will....after all. rolleyes
 
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The Congress already has expansive power under the Constitution to regulate elections for federal offices. Just look at the VRA.

Basic election security is not only well within their enumerated powers, it's an obligation under the elections clause and 14th, 15th, 19th, 23rd, 24th and 26th amendments.

It is Necessary and Proper to IMPOSE Due Process to ASSURE Equal Protection.
 
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The Congress already has expansive power under the Constitution to regulate elections for federal offices. Just look at the VRA.

Basic election security is not only well within their enumerated powers, it's an obligation under the elections clause and 14th, 15th, 19th, 23rd, 24th and 26th amendments.

It is Necessary and Proper to IMPOSE Due Process to ASSURE Equal Protection.
bingo, my point exactly, they have not only the right to do it, but the obligation.
got some splainin ta do for not making and keeping our election secure, and here we have the nerve to be teachers of other nations, while at home cheaters teach others ways around everything, and don't get caught?

Hilljezabillary, and Barry.....why not fisa warrant them, the real teachers? Didn't that B. who just got busted in Nevada work for the ClintonFucknation, and already got caught voter frauding...so who taught her? uma uma let me think.
Why are the sorrt, soros , alinsky drones not in jail.
Or do you imagine podesta just sits at home kissing his beanies.
think again people.

best Donald Trump line of all time....."Because you'd be in jail".
 
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Sounds great!!! plz forward to the Congress and senate they need help doing their jobs!!!
The U.S. Constitution puts forth ELECTION controls....and lists STATES that have the control in how, when, etc. IT WILL BE INTERESTING HOW MANY LAWSUITS will pop up IF & WHEN NANCY & CHUCK manage to get anything passed that makes nat'l mail-in-votes with no I.D. etc.
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The Dem'S IDEAS of voter bills are HORRIFIC!!!!!!
 
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“The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but Congress may at any time make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of chusing Senators.”

If the election has a Congressional race, the State is the primary authority, but Congress has broad authority.

"at any time make or alter" means the Congress can veto State election law.

POTUS is elected by the Electoral College, different set of rules...

It's the EXECUTIVE and JUDICIAL branches that are supposed to stay the hell out of writing election laws, and the JUDICIAL branch's duty to make sure the laws are upheld.

Honestly, all 3 branches of Gov't broke down at some level this election.
 
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shall the congress put in place basic rules for voting that shall be followed throughout the nation. Answer yes. Even without the senate, those voting nay will have a hard time explaining why.

I have Put together 7 simple rules for voter ID and 7 more for voting machine processes. States can add more where appropriate. (like pick up absentees for shut-ins, in Alaska), but make the basic 7 agreeable to all states. But the basic 14 should be agreed upon by all states.

Please remember, that to defraud one is to defraud and steal from all. To fundamentally change America in illegal ways, is to to deprive the entire world of leadership that has produced more progress in 200 years than in the former 2000. The world will not forgive those who destroyed it, and neither will the Lord.

voter ID

1. each voter shall register within the next 2 years, through the DMV in their state. Each state shall hire sufficiently to accommodate the slight extra processing time. Proof of birth and address required, including utility bills, and photo a ID required in every state, just like for the license. Voter must remove veil/mask, when Photo ID is created and again when signing in at the poll and be viewed by poll workers. No exceptions even for "religious" reasons. We cannot allow any group to circumvent the process under the guise of religion. Otherwise one group can register again and again,

2 . voter needing to vote absentee must have a doctors note explaining the shut-in's designated exception, (i.e.high risk (HR), or extreme pain EP or or military papers to prove an overseas posting. (MOP), otherwise, show up, have your ID. Do your duty.

3. Citizenship an absolute requirement. Residence in the state of choice of not less than 30 days; along with proof of cancellation from the prior state. Meaning each DMV must have a form you call fill out, on line or in person, and print/save, to show proof in your new state that you withdrew from the rolls in your former state. Military ballots must be provided within 30 days ahead of election day, so their ballots will no longer be late, or discounted for any reason; (as dems tried repeatedly to do Obama years).

4. Verified addresses. Election board shall verify all addresses are actual residences both through google map street views and a rental agreement or home deed/contract shall be presented at time of registry.

5. each voter shall sign in the presence of a minimum of 2 poll workers one from each party, and the photo ID shall be viewed, and the new voter/driver ID shall have an Rfid similar to those in new banking chips, so that forgery becomes a thing of the past. The Rfid is run and it proves you are you, assigns the location and time of your vote to a data base so that false votes can be proven.
Cameras can run at the sign in station so that fakers or dual voters shall be caught, just like now when you run a red light, they take your picture.

6. Voter fraud laws shall be strictly enforced in ALL states. Penalties shall be 2 years community service for one false attempt, 2 years jailtime for a second offence. And 5 year minimum for ballot harvesting, false ballot boxes, multiple fraudulent attempts to vote, or any organized attempt to add multiple ballots to the process. People teaching others as how to commit these frauds shall get 10 years minimum sentences. Whistle blower shall receive protections and some form of reward, especially if they have recorded proof of the instructors behavior and words.

7. no write-ins. If you mess up, you get a shredded on the spot and new blank ballot to fill out, eliminating write-ins eliminates a poll worker guessing as to what you meant here and there, same with x outs, just start over. If someone wants to run, let them get on the ballot, if you want to write in daffy duck, well grow up.

these are my top 7...suggestions are welcome.

7 RULES FOR VOTING MACHINES AND POLL WORKERS

1. the election board shall purge the voter rolls monthly of all movers, convicted felons, and deaths.

2. all hospitals and funeral homes, nursing homes, courts, probation officers, Ice deportations, and jails shall be required by law to report monthly to their states DMV a list of the deceased, newly convicted, and relocations, inclusive of name age and SS number. Failure shall result in hefty fines. If they can pay their bills once a month they can report their no longer eligible citizen. The state also shall enforce county by county that the rolls are purged, failure to keep these rolls up to date shall result in dismissal of entire election board and the county commissioners shall appoint all new people to those position who are willing to do the work, or hire someone to do it. Do your jobs or you are fired, (swamp rats.)

3. since you cannot possibly count all ballots in a day...in states with 5 million to a city...150 to 250 million votes...it can't happen. next best thing is...scan votes in Made in America" machines designed by our military programmers, and guarded in vaults (lots of old bank vaults around to insure protection, a chilly warehouse is stupid.). These machine must be tested to a fair thee well, then certified and sealed and delivered under guard to polling stations. The machine shall have NO access. NO USB ports, no upgrades can occur without returning them to factory and special tools to open them. Thus no one can reprogram them to weight the votes at 3 am. Each machine shall have a retractable electric cord (like a vacuum cleaner. With a wax security seal. It cannot be retracted until election day without breaking the seal, no machine with a broken seal can be installed. This way no tampering is possible anywhere at all. After the voting each machine shall be sealed differently. The seals shall be alter each year voting occurs and they shall not be available to reseal until election day. Now you have an open, then reclosed machine with 5 protections.

4. Special guards from each party shall be stationed at each row of booth machines and be monitoring them the entire day. replaced by others for bathroom breaks only, they shall not be left alone or unobserved ever. No need for electric machines this way or wired of any kind on the vote booths, a simple mark on each dot that a scanner can read. No poll workers shall stand alone at any machine, except for when they themselves vote.

5. the designation "none of the above" shall be available in each choice, so that an empty slot will not be guessed at or voted by a poll worker...each voter can choose "none of the above" if they don't wish to approve, or just don't know who is who....and this way each ballot will be filled out entirely. Eliminating ALL adjudication by poll/false voters deciding your mind for you.
In fact, marking a ballot shall be deemed attempted fraud. No poll worker shall have a marking pen at their work station. Period.

6. No poll workers shall help any voter to decide. If a new or elderly voter needs help, 2 workers, one from each party, will help them learn HOW to insert and mark a ballot, if they don't see and understand the video... but no suggestions shall be allowed as to what decisions should be. Suggestions from a poll worker shall result in immediate dismissal of that worker.
each state shall use a premade video to help new voters in their own language to understand how the process works and a video disc shall be available at each location, and online. So an approved DIY video, in all major languages, one to 2 minutes, shall help each new voter who comes alone and is confused.

7. Two poll workers one from each party shall discern each voters signature, the two observer/witnesses shall be allowed to oversee, and hear, and fill in for their party poll rep when the reps need a break. The observers shall be allowed to observe from 6 ft. away and provided chairs for the day. They must be in good health, of normal temperature, and must honor the mask regulations in their state or if any poll worker requests them to, until such regulations are lifted. If you object to masks, learn the stats in animal studies, if still not convinced, work to recall your gov-ignorer.


finally, one rule for the Stacy Abrams of the world, if you illegally rewrite election law, unless we were hit by an asteroid and nukes, and the legislature is all dead....if you rewrite the rules like some little god... YOU GO TO JAIL.
no difference between this and any other major crime....except instead of murdering a small group of school children, you just tried to murder a nation.

Best reason to reelect our president, so those who usurped our laws to steal our freedoms, can pay with their own freedom!
Since we pay lobbyists to write bills Congress votes on without reading, I'm against Congress passing legislation about our voting rights.
The states need to require voter ID and pass the Convention of States, which appears to neuter the courts, Congress and the White House.
 
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Since we pay lobbyists to write bills Congress votes on without reading, I'm against Congress passing legislation about our voting rights.
The states need to require voter ID and pass the Convention of States, which appears to neuter the courts, Congress and the White House.
ok so let's just say all the states do the right thing, except california and new york....you down with that?
knowing that 2 states could throw the whole thing back into another repeat of this year??
again and again....nope.....federal all 50 state basic requirements, we do this for hundreds, thousands are things far less impactful...its time to impact the thing that most impacts all that follows.

it must be done or welcome to communist chinas version of life.
 

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BTW, if we even had this discussion in china right now, we'd already have been imprisoned.
Don't kid yourself.

This is a color revolution, and they are in the consolodation of power phase. There will be plenty of political prosecutions and more chaos and violence in the cities to come.
 

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Sounds great!!! plz forward to the Congress and senate they need help doing their jobs
ok

ok so let's just say all the states do the right thing, except california and new york....you down with that?
knowing that 2 states could throw the whole thing back into another repeat of this year??
again and again....nope.....federal all 50 state basic requirements, we do this for hundreds, thousands are things far less impactful...its time to impact the thing that most impacts all that follows.

it must be done or welcome to communist chinas version of life.
You present solutions to a problem Congress has been *addressing* for years.
So no, I don't trust that institution to present a clean bill that benefits the American people.

Members of state legislatures live a lot closer to their districts and have a lot more difficulty ignoring their constituents *dismay.*
When Convention of States legislation is passed, voter fraud in federal elections may be moot.
 
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its time conservatives learned how to reason one person at a time.
You present solutions to a problem Congress has been *addressing* for years.
So no, I don't trust that institution to present a clean bill that benefits the American people.

Members of state legislatures live a lot closer to their districts and have a lot more difficulty ignoring their constituents *dismay.*
When Convention of States legislation is passed, voter fraud in federal elections may be moot.
elections are already moot, have been all along, in my lifetime.
you wanna know why mob guys hated JFK, A. they broke their promises, B. they went after their thing, C. they actually don't like cheaters or hypocrites. Sounds strange but it's true.
The OG had a code and JKsr and bobby broke the codes, which was basically don't ask us to help you cheat, and then cheat us.

i am not suggesting states do nothing, far from it. I am suggesting there be some basic agreements as to ID, timely voter roll updates etc. You counld basically develop a framework of the bones, then let the states flesh it out.
But without some basic musts.....
think of this, what if we decided tomorrow that every other state would drive on the left... and airports could vary where the landing and take off strips were, with no regulation. What would result. chaos is the answer.
and yet this is exactly where state regulation alone has left our voter system.
 

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shall the congress put in place basic rules for voting that shall be followed throughout the nation. Answer yes. Even without the senate, those voting nay will have a hard time explaining why.

I have Put together 7 simple rules for voter ID and 7 more for voting machine processes. States can add more where appropriate. (like pick up absentees for shut-ins, in Alaska), but make the basic 7 agreeable to all states. But the basic 14 should be agreed upon by all states.

Please remember, that to defraud one is to defraud and steal from all. To fundamentally change America in illegal ways, is to to deprive the entire world of leadership that has produced more progress in 200 years than in the former 2000. The world will not forgive those who destroyed it, and neither will the Lord.

voter ID

1. each voter shall register within the next 2 years, through the DMV in their state. Each state shall hire sufficiently to accommodate the slight extra processing time. Proof of birth and address required, including utility bills, and photo a ID required in every state, just like for the license. Voter must remove veil/mask, when Photo ID is created and again when signing in at the poll and be viewed by poll workers. No exceptions even for "religious" reasons. We cannot allow any group to circumvent the process under the guise of religion. Otherwise one group can register again and again,

2 . voter needing to vote absentee must have a doctors note explaining the shut-in's designated exception, (i.e.high risk (HR), or extreme pain EP or or military papers to prove an overseas posting. (MOP), otherwise, show up, have your ID. Do your duty.

3. Citizenship an absolute requirement. Residence in the state of choice of not less than 30 days; along with proof of cancellation from the prior state. Meaning each DMV must have a form you call fill out, on line or in person, and print/save, to show proof in your new state that you withdrew from the rolls in your former state. Military ballots must be provided within 30 days ahead of election day, so their ballots will no longer be late, or discounted for any reason; (as dems tried repeatedly to do Obama years).

4. Verified addresses. Election board shall verify all addresses are actual residences both through google map street views and a rental agreement or home deed/contract shall be presented at time of registry.

5. each voter shall sign in the presence of a minimum of 2 poll workers one from each party, and the photo ID shall be viewed, and the new voter/driver ID shall have an Rfid similar to those in new banking chips, so that forgery becomes a thing of the past. The Rfid is run and it proves you are you, assigns the location and time of your vote to a data base so that false votes can be proven.
Cameras can run at the sign in station so that fakers or dual voters shall be caught, just like now when you run a red light, they take your picture.

6. Voter fraud laws shall be strictly enforced in ALL states. Penalties shall be 2 years community service for one false attempt, 2 years jailtime for a second offence. And 5 year minimum for ballot harvesting, false ballot boxes, multiple fraudulent attempts to vote, or any organized attempt to add multiple ballots to the process. People teaching others as how to commit these frauds shall get 10 years minimum sentences. Whistle blower shall receive protections and some form of reward, especially if they have recorded proof of the instructors behavior and words.

7. no write-ins. If you mess up, you get a shredded on the spot and new blank ballot to fill out, eliminating write-ins eliminates a poll worker guessing as to what you meant here and there, same with x outs, just start over. If someone wants to run, let them get on the ballot, if you want to write in daffy duck, well grow up.

these are my top 7...suggestions are welcome.

7 RULES FOR VOTING MACHINES AND POLL WORKERS

1. the election board shall purge the voter rolls monthly of all movers, convicted felons, and deaths.

2. all hospitals and funeral homes, nursing homes, courts, probation officers, Ice deportations, and jails shall be required by law to report monthly to their states DMV a list of the deceased, newly convicted, and relocations, inclusive of name age and SS number. Failure shall result in hefty fines. If they can pay their bills once a month they can report their no longer eligible citizen. The state also shall enforce county by county that the rolls are purged, failure to keep these rolls up to date shall result in dismissal of entire election board and the county commissioners shall appoint all new people to those position who are willing to do the work, or hire someone to do it. Do your jobs or you are fired, (swamp rats.)

3. since you cannot possibly count all ballots in a day...in states with 5 million to a city...150 to 250 million votes...it can't happen. next best thing is...scan votes in Made in America" machines designed by our military programmers, and guarded in vaults (lots of old bank vaults around to insure protection, a chilly warehouse is stupid.). These machine must be tested to a fair thee well, then certified and sealed and delivered under guard to polling stations. The machine shall have NO access. NO USB ports, no upgrades can occur without returning them to factory and special tools to open them. Thus no one can reprogram them to weight the votes at 3 am. Each machine shall have a retractable electric cord (like a vacuum cleaner. With a wax security seal. It cannot be retracted until election day without breaking the seal, no machine with a broken seal can be installed. This way no tampering is possible anywhere at all. After the voting each machine shall be sealed differently. The seals shall be alter each year voting occurs and they shall not be available to reseal until election day. Now you have an open, then reclosed machine with 5 protections.

4. Special guards from each party shall be stationed at each row of booth machines and be monitoring them the entire day. replaced by others for bathroom breaks only, they shall not be left alone or unobserved ever. No need for electric machines this way or wired of any kind on the vote booths, a simple mark on each dot that a scanner can read. No poll workers shall stand alone at any machine, except for when they themselves vote.

5. the designation "none of the above" shall be available in each choice, so that an empty slot will not be guessed at or voted by a poll worker...each voter can choose "none of the above" if they don't wish to approve, or just don't know who is who....and this way each ballot will be filled out entirely. Eliminating ALL adjudication by poll/false voters deciding your mind for you.
In fact, marking a ballot shall be deemed attempted fraud. No poll worker shall have a marking pen at their work station. Period.

6. No poll workers shall help any voter to decide. If a new or elderly voter needs help, 2 workers, one from each party, will help them learn HOW to insert and mark a ballot, if they don't see and understand the video... but no suggestions shall be allowed as to what decisions should be. Suggestions from a poll worker shall result in immediate dismissal of that worker.
each state shall use a premade video to help new voters in their own language to understand how the process works and a video disc shall be available at each location, and online. So an approved DIY video, in all major languages, one to 2 minutes, shall help each new voter who comes alone and is confused.

7. Two poll workers one from each party shall discern each voters signature, the two observer/witnesses shall be allowed to oversee, and hear, and fill in for their party poll rep when the reps need a break. The observers shall be allowed to observe from 6 ft. away and provided chairs for the day. They must be in good health, of normal temperature, and must honor the mask regulations in their state or if any poll worker requests them to, until such regulations are lifted. If you object to masks, learn the stats in animal studies, if still not convinced, work to recall your gov-ignorer.


finally, one rule for the Stacy Abrams of the world, if you illegally rewrite election law, unless we were hit by an asteroid and nukes, and the legislature is all dead....if you rewrite the rules like some little god... YOU GO TO JAIL.
no difference between this and any other major crime....except instead of murdering a small group of school children, you just tried to murder a nation.

Best reason to reelect our president, so those who usurped our laws to steal our freedoms, can pay with their own freedom!
Many will have an issue with this but, I think voters should be required to put their thumb print on their ballot and/or have thumb “scanned” anonymously. The scanned print instantly goes into a nationwide real-time live database. If that “print” has already voted, that person will then be escorted and questioned by election officials. The database could also run the prints and if matched to a flagged print of an ineligible felon then that’s a bonus. There would need to be a universally selected digit followed by a secondary. In the event a voter is missing all phalanges then a polling official can submit a “pass” code/scan....Before people total grenade this idea, it could also serve as a deterrent to anyone even considering dishonesty. If the persons filling out fraudulent ballots back in November had to put their thumbprint on those ballots, knowing each one could be directly linked back to them, regardless of the name and address, don’t you think many would decide against it? Even if they were being paid $5 per ballot, most would have decided that the risk of going to prison wasn’t worth it.
 
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