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Confusedpatriot

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Thank you for watching this video.



Curious about a few things . . . . . .

1) Who do you possibly think can answer that question besides God? Are you Him? Is the presenter Him?

2) Why aren't you asking if the jews are saved? They crucified Jesus. What, no curiosity about jews?

3) Why don't you ask if Hindus are saved? They worship an elephant headed god, among many others.

4) Why don't you ask if muslims are saved? They routinely slaughter Christians and throw homos off the roof of tall buildings. You afraid to take on the muslims?


With all the crap going on in America, you choose to engage in anti-Catholic bigotry. Really? That's the most important issue you can think of? :rolleyes:
 

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Curious about a few things . . . . . .

1) Who do you possibly think can answer that question besides God? Are you Him? Is the presenter Him?

2) Why aren't you asking if the jews are saved? They crucified Jesus. What, no curiosity about jews?

3) Why don't you ask if Hindus are saved? They worship an elephant headed god, among many others.

4) Why don't you ask if muslims are saved? They routinely slaughter Christians and throw homos off the roof of tall buildings. You afraid to take on the muslims?


With all the crap going on in America, you choose to engage in anti-Catholic bigotry. Really? That's the most important issue you can think of? :rolleyes:
No, not Catholic bigotry, it is supposed to make you think about what Catholicism is really about. I grew up where my family went to Catholic church and my uncle was a priest, but what I am saying is that this video makes you re think about what Catholicism is really teaching. It is more of a warning. I have very good friends that were Catholic and I loved them dearly they have since passed away, so please don't take offense to this, it is something meant to help really it is not meant hinder, it is meant to make you think. You are right though, only Jesus is the judge of a person's salvation.
 
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Curious about a few things . . . . . .

1) Who do you possibly think can answer that question besides God? Are you Him? Is the presenter Him?

2) Why aren't you asking if the jews are saved? They crucified Jesus. What, no curiosity about jews?

3) Why don't you ask if Hindus are saved? They worship an elephant headed god, among many others.

4) Why don't you ask if muslims are saved? They routinely slaughter Christians and throw homos off the roof of tall buildings. You afraid to take on the muslims?


With all the crap going on in America, you choose to engage in anti-Catholic bigotry. Really? That's the most important issue you can think of? :rolleyes:
Curious about a few of the points you were curious about....
1. I haven't heard that question answered by God, have you? Post the audio, the video...please.
2. Jews of course would be another conversation since the one raised here was about Catholics.
3. Hindus of course are not the subject of the video
4. Muslims of course are not the subject of the video
With all the crap going on in America is it possible to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time?
To rightly criticize is NOT bigotry...unless viewed through foggy biased glasses.

The truth is to be defended.
Sometimes the truth is painful, especially if it hits close to home.
  • Criticize Jews and you are automatically labeled Anti Semitic
  • Hindus make great chicken curry
  • Muslims...Islam is archaic and brutal
 

Gzong

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Saved from What?

I bet if we all followed the ten commandments better we could save more of us from each other!

They don’t teach that in public schools you may have to go to a church to get that information!

Just look at all these ten commandment protesters robbing stores, burning and destroying city's, blocking traffic, hurting people!

Of course having protesters following the ten commandments is beyond their intellectual capability's when coming out to the party fulfills their emotional endorphin needs and that’s all that matters!

The media and propagandists are fulfilling their ambitions!
 
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Seven of today's most controversial Bible scholars reveal their shocking conclusions about the origins of Christianity. Based on the best-selling religious studies book by Joseph Atwill, this documentary shows that Jesus is not a historical figure, the events of Jesus' life were based on a Roman military campaign, his supposed second coming refers to a historical event that already occurred, the teachings of Christ came from the ancient pagan mystery schools, and the Gospels were written by a family of Caesars and their supporters, who left us documents to prove it.

 

Gzong

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Gzong, time for a Reality Check.
Your "bet" that "if" we all followed the Ten Commandments it would save us is a suckers bet.
Since the day Moses came down the mountain with the Ten Commandments up until the present day most people have trouble following even one commandment.
The Commandments of the "mostly peaceful protesters" come from Karl Marx.
Your confirming what I just said!

I do live in the real world my expectations are low for civilization but I do think “IF” we could follow the ten commandments folks would be treating one and another a little better.
There is no savior for life but believing in God (IT’S YOUR CHOICE) to me is more comforting at the end of my time (MY CHOICE).

Is Karl Marx still living (Sarcasm)!
 
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Your confirming what I just said!

I do live in the real world my expectations are low for civilization but I do think “IF” we could follow the ten commandments folks would be treating one and another a little better.
There is no savior for life but believing in God (IT’S YOUR CHOICE) to me is more comforting at the end of my time (MY CHOICE).

Is Karl Marx still living (Sarcasm)!
Not quite sure just how I "confirmed" what you just said.
At least you made that if a BIG "IF".
As I said, from day one we've been lucky to see most folks following just one Commandment. 10? Hasn't happened; ain't gonna happen.
If God works for you - Great! But, you might have noticed that God does not work for everyone; didn't work out so well for the 43 million innocent babies murdered by abortionist. Each of you are entitled to your beliefs, which I will defend.
BTW, I was an Agnostic but now am an Atheist with serious reservations.
No Marx is thankfully dead. However, his recipes for destroying a country are being cooked up everyday here in America.
 

Confusedpatriot

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Curious about a few of the points you were curious about....
1. I haven't heard that question answered by God, have you? Post the audio, the video...please.
2. Jews of course would be another conversation since the one raised here was about Catholics.
3. Hindus of course are not the subject of the video
4. Muslims of course are not the subject of the video
With all the crap going on in America is it possible to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time?
To rightly criticize is NOT bigotry...unless viewed through foggy biased glasses.

The truth is to be defended.
Sometimes the truth is painful, especially if it hits close to home.
  • Criticize Jews and you are automatically labeled Anti Semitic
  • Hindus make great chicken curry
  • Muslims...Islam is archaic and brutal

Has the question been answered by God? What's the point of asking me that?

In Post #2, asked JamesPeal7 the following: "Who do you possibly think can answer that question besides God? Are you Him? Is the presenter Him"

Your question to me is a complete non sequitur. I don't understand.

Deflecting my question about why jews, hindus and muslims are never criticizes by telling me that "they weren't the subject of the video" doesn't obviate the point I'm making: That anti-Catholic bigotry is alive and well all across America and always has been. It's also alive and well on this forum. I've personally seen 2-3 attacks on Catholics and I'm sure there are many more that I haven't seen.

On the other hand, where are the attacks on muslims? Even the LGBT, etc people are silent on that. Hinduism maintains a caste system at the bottom of which are the Untouchables. Where is that ever criticized?

And jews . . . . LOL Don't get me started. There are a couple of people here who question the negative effects of jewish control in banking and the media and they're soundly "cursed" as "evil racists" (as am I for that matter).

But who here besides me criticized the jewish fellow who cutss up material resembling the America flag to make shirts out of? Who here besides me questions the loyalty of American jews to MAGA, Trump and the patriot movement?

Who here questions the Holocaust (which has been proven to be false)? Who questions why America is littered buy "Holocaust Museums?" Anybody? Hello?


But anti-Catholic bigotry is tolerated. Why? In my opinion, because the religious wars of the Protestant Reformation never ended. We saw a major flare-up in Northern Ireland a few decades back and it's always smoldered here in America.

The question ARE CATHOLICS SAVED is a rhetorical question. The narrator is not REALLY interested in whether Catholics are saved, since logically, that's unknowable. He just wants to present his rationale for why Catholics ARE NOT saved.



And guess what . . . . That's fine. I don't personally give a **** who gets attacked or criticized. That's what Free Speech is all about. Someone wants to attack Catholics . . . . go for it.

But I do want to call out the hypocrisy at work here on this forum and in America.

If it's OK to attack Catholics, it should be OK to attack jew, the Holocaust, Nation Of Islam, black nationalism, La Raza, Antifa, BLM and all the rest.

Let's shine the light on everything.
 

Confusedpatriot

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CAVEAT: CATHOLICISM IS NOT BEING SINGLED OUT HERE....THAT IS RESERVED FOR ISLAM.
BUT THE TRUTH NEEDS TO BE TOLD
Sorry, Reality Bites...again.
The history of the Papacy is one of corruption, betrayal and arguably evil.
This is not the appropriate format for an in depth examination of the Papacy.
A couple of examples off the top of my head....
  • The Children's Crusade
  • Papal Indulgences
  • Popes fathering of children
  • Papal disregard and in some cases protection for pedophiles
  • Popes' living in luxury among priceless works of art while Catholics around the world go hungry
  • Oh, one more...our present day Socialist Pope. Catholics' like U.S. Republicans need to clean house.
  • Oh, one more one more........
OUCH! By 1256 inquisitors were given absolution if they used instruments of torture. In the 13th century, Pope Gregory IX (reigned 1227–1241) assigned the duty of carrying out inquisitions to the Dominican Order and Franciscan Order.

THIS JUST IN: pope-francis-politics-religion-nancy-pelosi


The history of the papacy . . . . . when?

When the Pope was a political leader wielding large armies and defending Europe against Muslim invasion? Context matters.

Pedophilia? There is no rampant pedophilia in the Catholic Church when compared to other institutions. A lot of what is called "pedophilia" is actually homosexuality with post=pubescent males. In other words . . . the Church as a HOMOSEXUAL SCANDAL with too many priests buggering young men and each other.

Nevertheless, there are far more incidents of pre and post pubescent sexual abuse among teachers than among priests.

Does the Church defend pedophile priests? The Church defends the Church. If that means destroying a file or paying someone off the Church will do it. But there has never been any evidence that pedophile priests are tolerated within the priesthood. In fact, the Church usually banishes its pedophile priests to the various funny farms it maintains around the world for its perverts.
 

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The history of the papacy . . . . . when?

When the Pope was a political leader wielding large armies and defending Europe against Muslim invasion? Context matters.

Pedophilia? There is no rampant pedophilia in the Catholic Church when compared to other institutions. A lot of what is called "pedophilia" is actually homosexuality with post=pubescent males. In other words . . . the Church as a HOMOSEXUAL SCANDAL with too many priests buggering young men and each other.

Nevertheless, there are far more incidents of pre and post pubescent sexual abuse among teachers than among priests.

Does the Church defend pedophile priests? The Church defends the Church. If that means destroying a file or paying someone off the Church will do it. But there has never been any evidence that pedophile priests are tolerated within the priesthood. In fact, the Church usually banishes its pedophile priests to the various funny farms it maintains around the world for its perverts.
I normally don't even open and read any of the emails that come in from the Warroom. Just, this one caught my attention, being a Catholic and know the One True Faith and Church given to us by Jesus. I actually didn't watch any of the videos, just went through the comments. It is nice to see that the old adage, opinions everyone has one like something else, carries on! There was one that peaked my interest and had to reply. As a truly Faithful Catholic hoping to right the ship, you have to blind if you don't know or think that our current and decades past leadership in the Church has protected and promoted homosexual priest and Bishops. If you are a Catholic on here and you care anything about our Church, then do yourself a favor and watch Churchmilitant.com and join the Resistance that they have started. In depth investigating into those matters. Have you even heard of Father James Martin, an outspoken homosexual promoted by the Church. Wake up. Although I hate to say wake up because if you did that would mean you are Woke. Just don't like that term anymore. Have a Blessed Day.
 
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Gzong

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Not quite sure just how I "confirmed" what you just said.
At least you made that if a BIG "IF".
As I said, from day one we've been lucky to see most folks following just one Commandment. 10? Hasn't happened; ain't gonna happen.
If God works for you - Great! But, you might have noticed that God does not work for everyone; didn't work out so well for the 43 million innocent babies murdered by abortionist. Each of you are entitled to your beliefs, which I will defend.
BTW, I was an Agnostic but now am an Atheist with serious reservations.
No Marx is thankfully dead. However, his recipes for destroying a country are being cooked up everyday here in America.
 

Gzong

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I said “IF” in my original statement did you not see that?

Slowing down before writing, helps!

Have a good day!
 

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I normally don't even open and read any of the emails that come in from the Warroom. Just, this one caught my attention, being a Catholic and know the One True Faith and Church given to us by Jesus. I actually didn't watch any of the videos, just went through the comments. It is nice to see that the old adage, opinions everyone has one like something else, carries on! There was one that peaked my interest and had to reply. As a truly Faithful Catholic hoping to right the ship, you have to blind if you don't know or think that our current and decades past leadership in the Church has protected and promoted homosexual priest and Bishops. If you are a Catholic on here and you care anything about our Church, then do yourself a favor and watch Churchmilitant.com and join the Resistance that they have started. In depth investigating into those matters. Have you even heard of Father James Martin, an outspoken homosexual promoted by the Church. Wake up. Although I hate to say wake up because if you did that would mean you are Woke. Just don't like that term anymore. Have a Blessed Day.
It is an important time in history to understand what the Catholic Church has been involved in. That does not mean that God has not connected to you, and reached out to you, in your sincere dedication to your faith. The historical facts are not in question, the Vatican Bank, and the history of corruption abuse and satanism are factual. I hope you will watch the video that I posted on this thread by Jordan Maxwell. It was the Holy Spirit that touched you here.
 

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“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.” [ThreeWorldWars.com
Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.}
 

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I normally don't even open and read any of the emails that come in from the Warroom. Just, this one caught my attention, being a Catholic and know the One True Faith and Church given to us by Jesus. I actually didn't watch any of the videos, just went through the comments. It is nice to see that the old adage, opinions everyone has one like something else, carries on! There was one that peaked my interest and had to reply. As a truly Faithful Catholic hoping to right the ship, you have to blind if you don't know or think that our current and decades past leadership in the Church has protected and promoted homosexual priest and Bishops. If you are a Catholic on here and you care anything about our Church, then do yourself a favor and watch Churchmilitant.com and join the Resistance that they have started. In depth investigating into those matters. Have you even heard of Father James Martin, an outspoken homosexual promoted by the Church. Wake up. Although I hate to say wake up because if you did that would mean you are Woke. Just don't like that term anymore. Have a Blessed Day.
Thank you for your comment.

I believe (and I think I stated this) that the Catholic Church cares for its wayward priests. Whether they're alcoholic, drug addicted, infirm. mentally ill (including pedophiles) or are simply struggling with their faith, the Church will protect them.

But the Catholic Church is mainly interested in protecting Mother Church. If it decides that hiding away an abusive priest protects the Church better than granting the victim justice . . . . THEN THAT'S WHAT THE CHURCH WILL DO.

The Church is no different than any corporate body. Its primary loyalty is to preserve the institution and continue its works.

(Why am I so sure of this? In a previous government job, I was in charge of recruiting clergymen. I had a priest working for me who had been trained in Rome and was a fast mover in the Church. I also had a chance to converse with several Bishops. That's my source of information.)

Yes, I know of Father Martin. Have you ever seen him suck a dick? Have you ever seen him engaging in sodomy as either pitcher or catcher? If not, then why do you accuse him of being a sodomite? Why do you accuse him of breaking his vow of celibacy?

You're waaaaaaaaaay out of line, sir.

I visited Churchmilitant and read THIS ARTICLE.

I think he's wrong. But I don't see any evidence that he has broken his vow of celibacy.

Like it or not, there is a revolution inside the Catholic Church when it comes to gays, LGBT and social justice. This current Pope represents that wing. So does Father Martin. So does activist social justice nut-job Father Pfleger. But so did most of the priesthood in Central America during the wars in Nicaragua and El Salvador. i think the majority of priests in the world who work with very poor communities accept the need for social justice.

This is a huge issue inside the Catholic Church as it is inside the Lutheran and other churches.
 

Confusedpatriot

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When? Throughout history.
Do you know what the "Children's Crusade" was?
The Papal Dispensations?
The Inquisition?
Those are all stains on the Church; albeit in the past.

Exactly. In the past, right? In the past. Back when the Pope was a political leader of a fairly large nation. Back when Islam was invading Europe. Back when there was political will throughout feudal Europe to retake the Holy Land. Back before Magellan circumnavigated the earth and most Europeans believed the earth was flat.

Context matters. We can't judge things in the past as Right or Wrong because we don't live in the past.

According to your argument, Thomas Jefferson was a total piece of **** because he was a slave holder. So, you agree with BLM and Antifa. We should take down statues of Washington and Jefferson.

It's not that I am defending what the Pope did as being Right or Moral. I'm just defending the principle that we can't judge historical events on OUR terms. We have to judge history on the terms of those who lived it.

Ahh...your explanation and rather flimsy defense "...when compared to other institutions..." is indefensible.
Teachers entrusted with our children have been a source of child abuse and pedophilia. Horrible but not quite the same as an ordained Priest in the House of the Lord our God buggering anyone.

A priest is called "Father." A priest who molests a child is like a dad molesting his own child. It's a crime with Special Circumstances that make us cringe and demand retribution. No argument there.

But the point I was making and still make is that the Church as an INSTITUTION has no more of a problem than any other institution . . . . public schools, child care, summer camps and general society. It also has no bigger problem than Islam or protestant churches.

The other thing to emphasize, is that priest sexual abuse is most often HOMOSEXUALITY. There is no evidence that there are more pedophiles among priests than anywhere else. But there is a huge homosexuality problem. The buggering of a 14-year old altar boy is different than the buggering of an 8-year old. They're both horrible but one is more of a mental illness than another.
 

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